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The most interesting thing is what's defined as "Canadian Content". Most of what Celine Dion produced in her career doesn't fit the government approved list of

The most interesting thing is what's defined as "Canadian Content". Most of what Celine Dion produced in her career doesn't fit the government approved list of cultural content, so is considered foreign music. Celine Dion, probably Canada's most recognizable voice and signer, signing in French, a language almost exclusively spoken in Canada on the North American continent, isn't considered Canadian culture. But some recordings from Elvis do count because he happened to record them on Canadian soil. [0] [0] https://nationalpost.com/news/extremely-canadian-media-that-ottawa-doesnt-consider-cancon https://nationalpost.com/news/extremely-canadian-media-that-...

neom 3y ago
Makes sense, if you pick up and make a career for yourself using American resources you shouldn't be cancon, same with startups, can't get amazing startup Canadian capgains if you start Canadian and later basically become an American company. JB, Celine, Brian Adam's etc arguably started because Canada is such a hospitable environment to artists, if they pick up and basically come American... Why should we classify them as Canadian artists? Don't think any of them even live in Canada anymore, can't say I think they do much for the industry. Matt Dusk, CRJ, lightfoot etc keep it real.
- modzu 3y ago
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  - gerbilly 3y ago
    > the only difference between a canadian and an american is a line on a map Kindly keep this kind of ignorant viewpoint to yourself. There are a lot of differences, and if you can't or won't see them that not our problem. As a Canadian, I don't want your two party political structure (soon to be one maybe?) and your supreme court of mostly old clerics making decisions based on their religious views in my country thanks. Or shall we talk about your daily mass shootings? If you guys think that is working for you, so much the better for you.
    - CHB0403085482 3y ago
      National medical insurance and maple syrup for all.
    - modzu 3y ago
      ..this comment saddens me. fyi i am not an american
      - neom 3y ago
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    - dang 3y ago
      Please don't perpetuate nationalistic flamewars, or any flamewars, on HN, regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - gerbilly 3y ago
        You know @dang, I appreciate what you're trying to foster here, but despite that I think that some of the commenters on this site are keeping people away. My friend—who is much more restrained in speech than I am—and I were saying that we don't like to come to the 'orange site' as much as before, despite the sometimes excellent discussions, and though it's hard to say precisely why, the reason we came up with is the libertarian slant. You are doing a great job keeping the tone civil, but I think in the end it just leaves us with a community made up of say 33% of people politely saying impolite things. By controlling the tone, could it be that our trolls have just learned to deliver their absolutist, unfeeling and insensitive comments in polite language? We can detect tone but not intent, right? So we control the tone, but the trolls here (and no doubt about it we have them like anywhere else) have just learned to sealion people. And I stand by the provocative nature of the parent post. What if he/she had said 'The difference between a Russian and a Ukrainian is just a line on a map?' That is a politely stated idea. Would a Ukrainian have to take that with restraint too?
  - dang 3y ago
    [Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We asked you this at least once before. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
    - modzu 3y ago
      my answer, while terse, was in fact a legitimate attempt at answering the parent question: "Why should we classify them as Canadian artists? Don't think any of them even live in Canada anymore" i think its a good question. i attempted to point out, rather simply, how attempts to answer this question in terms of where an artist was born vs where the artist lives vs where the artist recorded their music, etc are arbitrary distinctions. in my view, there is no difference between these artists, qua artists or their art qua art, regardless of which lines they cross on a map, or when. i am struggling to see that distinction alone as a valid criterion to determine which forms of art are worthy of supporting and promoting, or, in the active, suppressing. and i am sensitive to the censorship of art in particular, so perhaps this is reason for my emotional "hot take". but my hope was that my comment would evoke a thoughtful response, and not some sort of racist flame war, yes indeed.
      - dang 3y ago
        That's fine, but what you actually posted was an unambiguous case of flamebait. The burden is on you as a commenter not to do that. That is, the burden is on you to disambiguate your intent. Your intent exists in your head, but not in anyone else's—you have to communicate it clearly if you want other people to give you thoughtful responses. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=burden%20disambiguate%20by%3Adang&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
        modzu 3y ago
        thanks for the link dang, it is helpful. point taken.

neom 3y ago

Makes sense, if you pick up and make a career for yourself using American resources you shouldn't be cancon, same with startups, can't get amazing startup Canadian capgains if you start Canadian and later basically become an American company. JB, Celine, Brian Adam's etc arguably started because Canada is such a hospitable environment to artists, if they pick up and basically come American... Why should we classify them as Canadian artists? Don't think any of them even live in Canada anymore, can't say I think they do much for the industry. Matt Dusk, CRJ, lightfoot etc keep it real.

modzu 3y ago
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- gerbilly 3y ago
  > the only difference between a canadian and an american is a line on a map Kindly keep this kind of ignorant viewpoint to yourself. There are a lot of differences, and if you can't or won't see them that not our problem. As a Canadian, I don't want your two party political structure (soon to be one maybe?) and your supreme court of mostly old clerics making decisions based on their religious views in my country thanks. Or shall we talk about your daily mass shootings? If you guys think that is working for you, so much the better for you.
  - CHB0403085482 3y ago
    National medical insurance and maple syrup for all.
  - modzu 3y ago
    ..this comment saddens me. fyi i am not an american
    - neom 3y ago
      [flagged]
  - dang 3y ago
    Please don't perpetuate nationalistic flamewars, or any flamewars, on HN, regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - gerbilly 3y ago
      You know @dang, I appreciate what you're trying to foster here, but despite that I think that some of the commenters on this site are keeping people away. My friend—who is much more restrained in speech than I am—and I were saying that we don't like to come to the 'orange site' as much as before, despite the sometimes excellent discussions, and though it's hard to say precisely why, the reason we came up with is the libertarian slant. You are doing a great job keeping the tone civil, but I think in the end it just leaves us with a community made up of say 33% of people politely saying impolite things. By controlling the tone, could it be that our trolls have just learned to deliver their absolutist, unfeeling and insensitive comments in polite language? We can detect tone but not intent, right? So we control the tone, but the trolls here (and no doubt about it we have them like anywhere else) have just learned to sealion people. And I stand by the provocative nature of the parent post. What if he/she had said 'The difference between a Russian and a Ukrainian is just a line on a map?' That is a politely stated idea. Would a Ukrainian have to take that with restraint too?
- dang 3y ago
  [Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We asked you this at least once before. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
  - modzu 3y ago
    my answer, while terse, was in fact a legitimate attempt at answering the parent question: "Why should we classify them as Canadian artists? Don't think any of them even live in Canada anymore" i think its a good question. i attempted to point out, rather simply, how attempts to answer this question in terms of where an artist was born vs where the artist lives vs where the artist recorded their music, etc are arbitrary distinctions. in my view, there is no difference between these artists, qua artists or their art qua art, regardless of which lines they cross on a map, or when. i am struggling to see that distinction alone as a valid criterion to determine which forms of art are worthy of supporting and promoting, or, in the active, suppressing. and i am sensitive to the censorship of art in particular, so perhaps this is reason for my emotional "hot take". but my hope was that my comment would evoke a thoughtful response, and not some sort of racist flame war, yes indeed.
    - dang 3y ago
      That's fine, but what you actually posted was an unambiguous case of flamebait. The burden is on you as a commenter not to do that. That is, the burden is on you to disambiguate your intent. Your intent exists in your head, but not in anyone else's—you have to communicate it clearly if you want other people to give you thoughtful responses. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=burden%20disambiguate%20by%3Adang&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
      - modzu 3y ago
        thanks for the link dang, it is helpful. point taken.