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I think if we could somehow see all the "zero days" that are out there that all of us, and I mean, things that exist at all, not just things discovered by some
by jerf 3y ago
I think if we could somehow see all the "zero days" that are out there that all of us, and I mean, things that exist at all, not just things discovered by some human and an exploit written, even those in the industry and those well-endowed with cynicism, would be surprised. I include myself even as I expound this opinion.
Just "SELECT * FROM nsa_exploits" would probably turn all our stomachs and I'd guess they still only have a small fraction of what exists.
Software is to a large extent built on default-unsafe primitives, and we wrest security from them at great effort and with dubious efficacy. We still have fights on HN about whether or not "memory safety" is necessary, and that is frankly so far below the level we need to operate that it would be humorous if it weren't sad. Granted, that fight is dying down as we gradually converge on "yes, it's necessary", but it's like level 2 and we need to be operating on level 18.
- hsudvsish 3y ago> Just "SELECT * FROM nsa_exploits" would probably turn all our stomachs and I'd guess they still only have a small fraction of what exists. good thing we live in a free democratic society!
- renewiltord 3y agoWe do. And a resilient free society creates agents that it cannot police so that it can achieve its aims. No-ships are necessary for the Secher Nbiw.