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I think the work that Lisa Su has done has been great. But their graphics division has been playing catch up with Nvidia for years.

williamDafoe 3y ago
NVidia loves to cite steam surveys to mislead customers but the truth is they have 0% market share in consoles (not in steam surveys) and the new AMD M780 iGPU (7940hs APU) just wiped out NVidia's entire MX product line and is literally 2x faster than Intel's best iGPU and equal to an m1650 laptop GPU! If they are not careful NVidia could fall below 50% of the graphics market very very soon! I remember a time when ATI 9600 was the #1 card on the market. It can come again, and quicker than you think ...
- cypress66 3y ago
  Market share on consoles is just a matter of business deals. On PC instead, market share is more of an indicator of how good a product is because people get to choose the GPU. In terms of technology Nvidia is quite ahead, and has been for more than a decade. > the new AMD M780 iGPU (7940hs APU) just wiped out NVidia's entire MX product line and is literally 2x faster than Intel's best iGPU and equal to an m1650 laptop GPU! Pretty sure Nvidia doesn't give a shit about such a low end market segment.
  - sagarm 3y ago
    Just a matter of business deals -- but Su "played a prominent role" in those deals, at least according to Wikipedia. Those deals kept AMD alive.
    - shaklee3 3y ago
      Do you have a source on that? Consoles are usually loss leader type products and bring more recognition than money. There's a reason the systems are so cheap.
- tredre3 3y ago
  > but the truth is they have 0% market share in consoles 125.62 million Switch sold would beg to differ.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  >If they are not careful NVidia could fall below 50% of the graphics market very very soon! If we're gonna talk about GPU market share, the dominant leader has always been Intel. Do you have an Intel CPU? It has an Intel GPU inside.

williamDafoe 3y ago

NVidia loves to cite steam surveys to mislead customers but the truth is they have 0% market share in consoles (not in steam surveys) and the new AMD M780 iGPU (7940hs APU) just wiped out NVidia's entire MX product line and is literally 2x faster than Intel's best iGPU and equal to an m1650 laptop GPU! If they are not careful NVidia could fall below 50% of the graphics market very very soon! I remember a time when ATI 9600 was the #1 card on the market. It can come again, and quicker than you think ...

cypress66 3y ago
Market share on consoles is just a matter of business deals. On PC instead, market share is more of an indicator of how good a product is because people get to choose the GPU. In terms of technology Nvidia is quite ahead, and has been for more than a decade. > the new AMD M780 iGPU (7940hs APU) just wiped out NVidia's entire MX product line and is literally 2x faster than Intel's best iGPU and equal to an m1650 laptop GPU! Pretty sure Nvidia doesn't give a shit about such a low end market segment.
- sagarm 3y ago
  Just a matter of business deals -- but Su "played a prominent role" in those deals, at least according to Wikipedia. Those deals kept AMD alive.
  - shaklee3 3y ago
    Do you have a source on that? Consoles are usually loss leader type products and bring more recognition than money. There's a reason the systems are so cheap.
tredre3 3y ago
> but the truth is they have 0% market share in consoles 125.62 million Switch sold would beg to differ.
Dalewyn 3y ago
>If they are not careful NVidia could fall below 50% of the graphics market very very soon! If we're gonna talk about GPU market share, the dominant leader has always been Intel. Do you have an Intel CPU? It has an Intel GPU inside.