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> I propose that similar to age and gender, college name be no longer required as a criterion for job applications. That's never going to work for specialized
by nordsieck 3y ago
> I propose that similar to age and gender, college name be no longer required as a criterion for job applications.
That's never going to work for specialized jobs. If you need a chemical engineer, than you need a chemical engineer.
But I think this is a very good idea for all of those jobs that just say "4 year degree required" without any specialty. Honestly, I don't understand how such postings aren't already illegal under structural discrimination.
- endisneigh 3y agoNote: I said college name, not degree. You can and certainly should be able to say that you attained a Bachelor's of Science in Chemistry. Whether college is required at all is also an interesting discussion.
- joelfried 3y agoIt's a lot easier to lie about a degree if nobody knows where you got it. That seems like a fatal flaw to your plan.
- ceejayoz 3y agoTreat it like a drug test. Extend an offer contingent on degree verification.
- endisneigh 3y agoThat's already true of all criteria in your application. It would be handled during the background check.
- quadrifoliate 3y agoThis. We really don't need some complicated ZKP scheme. 10 minutes of an HR person's time is enough.
- adamsmith143 3y agoPlenty of jobs check your credentials before hiring already. It's not a significant burden.
- meowkit 3y agoZero Knowledge Proofs You get a degree. You can prove that you got the degree from an accredited university, if that university is providing some cryptographic form of that degree, without revealing the name of that university. This only works if multiple universities sign on to a ZKP scheme, because (obviously) if only a single university did this you would know which university it was. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof#
- JumpCrisscross 3y agoNot all degrees are the same. Not everyone needs to be Ivy League. But especially with the current waive of partisan fuckery in higher education, I want to make sure I’m not getting a dud. If that information is literally banned, you’re going to emphasise hiring through informal channels, i.e. the well connected.
- hgsgm 3y agoSchool name doesn't help avoid a dud. Test for ability and performance.
- nordsieck 3y ago> School name doesn't help avoid a dud. Test for ability and performance. Not always easy to do. That's part of the reason why school name matters a lot more for MBAs than software developers.
- ghaff 3y agoIt's probably law degrees where schools (and clerkships) probably have the most sway--especially for big city law firms. For MBAs, schools probably carry out-sized weight for new grads in some specific areas like management consulting and investment banking.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
- hgsgm 3y agoEngineering degrees are governed by ABET. It's trivial for schools to email their list of graduates to ABET. Other fields have similar certifications and/or degree-independent licensing exams like CPA and actuary.
- yunyu 3y agoMost legitimate CS programs like Stanford or CMU CS are not ABET accredited.
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