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Sam Sure & Giacomo

49 points by Benjy 15y ago

miahi 15y ago
One hour on HN and the server is down.
niravshah 15y ago
This is pretty neat - can anyone give any insight/guesses into how this was done?
- tintin 15y ago
  Maybe this picture will help you: http://www.creativeapplications.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/bloggie_unwarp_1280px.jpg http://www.creativeapplications.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/... Now you have different options to display it. One is to map it on a 3D object and place a camera inside the object. More info and movies: http://www.cornflex.org/?p=1 http://www.cornflex.org/?p=1
- makmanalp 15y ago
  Well, the stupid way to do this involves having a stand with many cameras mounted in a globe shape, such that the viewing angles of all the cameras overlap. This is expensive. The more elegant solution is to use half-globe mirror (or two) to get 360 vision with 1 camera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnidirectional_camera http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnidirectional_camera http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~kostas/omni.html http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~kostas/omni.html This is getting very popular in robotics applications because it's cheap and a simple way to get 360 surroundings data. From this, you can localize and / or detect obstacles.
  - bsimpson 15y ago
    Here's the mirror way of doing it: http://www.360video.com http://www.360video.com There's a link on the home page showing what the uncorrected video looks like (it's a giant video donut). You get better image quality (e.g. no stitching errors), but lower resolution, because the whole environment has to fit in the same 1080P frame.
gokhan 15y ago
@1:20, you can see the artist's shadow on the wall while holding the camera.
- citricsquid 15y ago
  You can also see him in the mirrors at 3:33 holding the camera. There is also visible warping of his arm around that time (and the next scene where he goes through a gate, very visible here)
robinsmidsrod 15y ago
At 2:46, at first I thought I saw a person picking a pocket, but it turned out to be just someone bending down to get their own wallet. That would've been a funny easter-egg.
tripzilch 15y ago
Does it have to be so slow?
jeremyarussell 15y ago
It'd be interesting to know how much it cost to make this. First time I've ever seen an interactive 360 video like this though and I gotta say I want to try it out now.
- lbotos 15y ago
  It looks like you can find a bloggie for around $200USD but the 360 Resolution is a little low. This site shows some openFrameworks work with bloggie: http://www.flong.com/blog/2010/open-source-panoramic-video-bloggie-openframeworks-processing/ http://www.flong.com/blog/2010/open-source-panoramic-video-b...
lbotos 15y ago
I wonder if we will see any "future indie cinema" use this? I'm imagining an interesting way to show a thriller/mystery from all angles. It would be a challenge to shoot but boy would that be incredible. There would be so much more to "miss".
tsunamifury 15y ago
I would say this is more of a tech demo and not a 'great use'. A great use of 360 degree filming would be the drive the Haiti after the earthquake: http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/01/world/haiti.360/index.html http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/01/world/haiti.360/index...
schiffern 15y ago
This is interesting tech. I feel like I should like it. Watching these 360° videos, I always feel a certain anxiety. Part of it is technical – the interface is so clunky that "swiveling my head" is painfully awkward. But part of it is inherent – I worry that I'll miss the part I'm "really" supposed to be watching. I feel like I should replay the video 3-4 times to take it all in, but I just don't have that kind of time. I wind up navigating away to resolve the tension. A big part of cinematography is directing the viewer's eye through framing, focus, etc. A brilliant example is the 3D IMAX version of Avatar. The giant screen is only the first challenge. Since curent 3D technology simulates stereoscopic cues but not focal cues, they had to direct the viewer's attention in 3-axes to avoid uncomfortable perceptual mismatch. To their credit, this only happened to me a couple times. So despite the cool tech, this is a step backward for visual storytelling imho.
medcab 15y ago
So awesome! some day all videos will be like this
medcab 15y ago
So awesome! poignant it should reference the now seminal massive attack vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbVRA6ZAhKo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbVRA6ZAhKo

Sam Sure & Giacomo

49 points by Benjy 15y ago

miahi 15y ago

One hour on HN and the server is down.

niravshah 15y ago

This is pretty neat - can anyone give any insight/guesses into how this was done?

tintin 15y ago
Maybe this picture will help you: http://www.creativeapplications.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/bloggie_unwarp_1280px.jpg http://www.creativeapplications.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/... Now you have different options to display it. One is to map it on a 3D object and place a camera inside the object. More info and movies: http://www.cornflex.org/?p=1 http://www.cornflex.org/?p=1
makmanalp 15y ago
Well, the stupid way to do this involves having a stand with many cameras mounted in a globe shape, such that the viewing angles of all the cameras overlap. This is expensive. The more elegant solution is to use half-globe mirror (or two) to get 360 vision with 1 camera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnidirectional_camera http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnidirectional_camera http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~kostas/omni.html http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~kostas/omni.html This is getting very popular in robotics applications because it's cheap and a simple way to get 360 surroundings data. From this, you can localize and / or detect obstacles.
- bsimpson 15y ago
  Here's the mirror way of doing it: http://www.360video.com http://www.360video.com There's a link on the home page showing what the uncorrected video looks like (it's a giant video donut). You get better image quality (e.g. no stitching errors), but lower resolution, because the whole environment has to fit in the same 1080P frame.

gokhan 15y ago

@1:20, you can see the artist's shadow on the wall while holding the camera.

citricsquid 15y ago
You can also see him in the mirrors at 3:33 holding the camera. There is also visible warping of his arm around that time (and the next scene where he goes through a gate, very visible here)

robinsmidsrod 15y ago

At 2:46, at first I thought I saw a person picking a pocket, but it turned out to be just someone bending down to get their own wallet. That would've been a funny easter-egg.

tripzilch 15y ago

Does it have to be so slow?

jeremyarussell 15y ago

It'd be interesting to know how much it cost to make this. First time I've ever seen an interactive 360 video like this though and I gotta say I want to try it out now.

lbotos 15y ago
It looks like you can find a bloggie for around $200USD but the 360 Resolution is a little low. This site shows some openFrameworks work with bloggie: http://www.flong.com/blog/2010/open-source-panoramic-video-bloggie-openframeworks-processing/ http://www.flong.com/blog/2010/open-source-panoramic-video-b...

lbotos 15y ago

I wonder if we will see any "future indie cinema" use this? I'm imagining an interesting way to show a thriller/mystery from all angles. It would be a challenge to shoot but boy would that be incredible. There would be so much more to "miss".

tsunamifury 15y ago

I would say this is more of a tech demo and not a 'great use'. A great use of 360 degree filming would be the drive the Haiti after the earthquake: http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/01/world/haiti.360/index.html http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/01/world/haiti.360/index...

schiffern 15y ago

This is interesting tech. I feel like I should like it. Watching these 360° videos, I always feel a certain anxiety. Part of it is technical – the interface is so clunky that "swiveling my head" is painfully awkward. But part of it is inherent – I worry that I'll miss the part I'm "really" supposed to be watching. I feel like I should replay the video 3-4 times to take it all in, but I just don't have that kind of time. I wind up navigating away to resolve the tension. A big part of cinematography is directing the viewer's eye through framing, focus, etc. A brilliant example is the 3D IMAX version of Avatar. The giant screen is only the first challenge. Since curent 3D technology simulates stereoscopic cues but not focal cues, they had to direct the viewer's attention in 3-axes to avoid uncomfortable perceptual mismatch. To their credit, this only happened to me a couple times. So despite the cool tech, this is a step backward for visual storytelling imho.

medcab 15y ago

So awesome! some day all videos will be like this

medcab 15y ago

So awesome! poignant it should reference the now seminal massive attack vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbVRA6ZAhKo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbVRA6ZAhKo