> you're simply doing what the Vatican does The Vatican and its followers tells everyone else to 'believe in' what they do; I am simply 'announcing my view' th

> you're simply doing what the Vatican does The Vatican and its followers tells everyone else to 'believe in' what they do; I am simply 'announcing my view' that I subscribe to materialism. > does not require material existence, just computation But there is material existence. There are bits representing the vertices, textures, etc. inside some storage device. The computation itself is represented in some material form, whether it be some add/sub/xor instruction and its binary representation in storage/memory, or written out on paper, or stored in our memories. There are frames transmitted as signals through the wires; there are photons emitted by the monitor. All material, physical representations of a video game. For a better example... The imagery that one might perceive during a hallucination might not be real, but the hallucination itself is: it is electrical impulses through neurons which are producing said hallucination. The abstract universe that you claim is matter and therefore reality cannot exist without material 'hardware'.