Well of course the prices are just fraud. Maybe it’s legal fraud, but it’s fraud nonetheless. I mean you’ll see bills for 20k that insurance would have covered

Well of course the prices are just fraud. Maybe it’s legal fraud, but it’s fraud nonetheless. I mean you’ll see bills for 20k that insurance would have covered for 1k. It’s just bullshit. Frankly negotiated prices should just be illegal. They should just provide prices for services. Insurers should have plans on how much they’ll cover you, but they don’t change any pricing. The hidden bullshit smoke and mirrors producing fraudulent pricing that may or may cover you depending on a million different reason is as far from market competition as it gets.