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> Seth's belief in a materialistic explanation for consciousness and the human condition is something I subscribe to, too. My view is that we are simply very co

> Seth's belief in a materialistic explanation for consciousness and the human condition is something I subscribe to, too. My view is that we are simply very complex, giant state machines... professing your articles of faith about what we are is not "explaining" consciousness, you're simply doing what the Vatican does. but since we're announcing our views, my view is that Materialism is completely wrong, rather, matter is something our consciousness imagines to explain perceptions like momentum and collisions. In my view, the nature of the universe is informational, mathematical, and computational, and the fact that what we call electrons repel each other does not require material existence, just as what you see in a video game does not require material existence, just computation. There could be an isomorphic material universe underlying our informational mathematical computational universe, but it's not necessary, and an abstract universe is much closer to abstract thought, so while I haven't explained consciousness any more than you have, it seems like a better way to go to me.

delta_p_delta_x 3y ago
> you're simply doing what the Vatican does The Vatican and its followers tells everyone else to 'believe in' what they do; I am simply 'announcing my view' that I subscribe to materialism. > does not require material existence, just computation But there is material existence. There are bits representing the vertices, textures, etc. inside some storage device. The computation itself is represented in some material form, whether it be some add/sub/xor instruction and its binary representation in storage/memory, or written out on paper, or stored in our memories. There are frames transmitted as signals through the wires; there are photons emitted by the monitor. All material, physical representations of a video game. For a better example... The imagery that one might perceive during a hallucination might not be real, but the hallucination itself is: it is electrical impulses through neurons which are producing said hallucination. The abstract universe that you claim is matter and therefore reality cannot exist without material 'hardware'.

delta_p_delta_x 3y ago

> you're simply doing what the Vatican does The Vatican and its followers tells everyone else to 'believe in' what they do; I am simply 'announcing my view' that I subscribe to materialism. > does not require material existence, just computation But there is material existence. There are bits representing the vertices, textures, etc. inside some storage device. The computation itself is represented in some material form, whether it be some add/sub/xor instruction and its binary representation in storage/memory, or written out on paper, or stored in our memories. There are frames transmitted as signals through the wires; there are photons emitted by the monitor. All material, physical representations of a video game. For a better example... The imagery that one might perceive during a hallucination might not be real, but the hallucination itself is: it is electrical impulses through neurons which are producing said hallucination. The abstract universe that you claim is matter and therefore reality cannot exist without material 'hardware'.