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I think this article says the right thing. Sometimes it is, you have to be mindful of others around you. I know that's a rare concept in the USA especially. Eve

I think this article says the right thing. Sometimes it is, you have to be mindful of others around you. I know that's a rare concept in the USA especially. Everyone only thinks of themselves then gets mad when that attitude is turned around on them. As a frequent flyer, who's 6ft 220lbs, on those rare occasions I don't get a first class upgrade I try to be very mindful of others around me. Not just reclining the seat but trying to keep my arms crossed in front of me to avoid encroaching on the person next to me. Because the simple fact is shoulders are as wide or wider than many coach seats. People who reclining their seats during food or main drink service need to be spoken with by the flight attendants. I've never seen it happen here in the US but nearly every Asian flight I've been on during the food service they'll tell you to put your seat up. After cabin service and the lights go down for resting then it's less of a problem because everyone is now reclining. Always consider how your actions effect others, even if that other person is rude. It seems to be in fashion to hate on Christianity but this simple concept of do unto others as you would have them do unto you is a concept that transcends religion and time.

refurb 3y ago
I know that's a rare concept in the USA especially. LOL, come to Asia. I look forward to traveling back the US because people are so considered of others compared to Asia. But yes, I agree. The Asian airlines are really good about telling people to "put your seat up so the person behind you can eat their food".
- elmerfud 3y ago
  Oh well yes the concept of a queue or a line in Asia seems to be not a thing. Especially if you're standing and giving a small amount of personal space to the person in front of you. They take that as an invitation to cut in. On the other hand, typically the cultures are non-confrontational so as a person from the US I just get loud and be like what the fuck are you doing. They realize their mistake and sheepishly moved to the back. Very much a different cultural concept because most of the time no one else will say anything they just deal with it. I think in the US if you cut in line you might get shot or at minimum start some sort of physical altercation. And people just generally know this so they don't do it.
  - ESTheComposer 3y ago
    I don't understand you, this post completely contradicts your original one. Why make a snarky remark about how people from the US don't understand being mindful of others while at the same time commenting on how people in Asia don't seem to be mindful of others when it comes to lines, and then straight up saying that people in the US are mindful of that very same thing?
  - conductr 3y ago
    You recited the golden rule then proceed to explain your apparent joy in going full Karen on these people
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  - pfannkuchen 3y ago
    > in the US if you cut in line you might get shot or at minimum start some sort of physical altercation Not sure if this is the reason. In Germany I don’t think you can expect to get shot or get into a fist fight, but I think people cut even less than they do in the US.
ESTheComposer 3y ago
> I know that's a rare concept in the USA especially. Everyone only thinks of themselves then gets mad when that attitude is turned around on them. I don't think I've ever been to a country where this isn't true, so not sure why you're singling out the US.
- gabeio 3y ago
  > I've never seen it happen here in the US but nearly every Asian flight I've been on during the food service they'll tell you to put your seat up. It sounds like they are from the US, so they are actually talking about their own experiences in their own country. In that sentence didn't state that part, not sure why.
  - ESTheComposer 3y ago
    Yeah I get they're probably American but in their first experience they basically put down the US and in the same sentence imply other countries know better than us unmindful Americans, while also commenting in another post that the same Asian countries they praised have no concept of mindfulness when it comes to lines and that Americans do, and that they just go and yell in the Asian folks' faces if they dare cut in front of them in line. Just seems like a weirdly hypocritical thing and also that they might be jumping on the "US is uncultured" bandwagon that you see on Reddit and other social media these days
vore 3y ago
Why did you keep bringing the culture war into your post? You can just say you don't like it when people recline their seats during drink service without grinding your axe like this.
grepfru_it 3y ago
You should keep your arms to yourself, but middle seat always gets both arm rests. This might mean an elbow sticking an inch into your space. Window seat gets a window, aisle seat has the aisle. Middle seat is screwed, so give them the arm rests

refurb 3y ago

I know that's a rare concept in the USA especially. LOL, come to Asia. I look forward to traveling back the US because people are so considered of others compared to Asia. But yes, I agree. The Asian airlines are really good about telling people to "put your seat up so the person behind you can eat their food".

elmerfud 3y ago
Oh well yes the concept of a queue or a line in Asia seems to be not a thing. Especially if you're standing and giving a small amount of personal space to the person in front of you. They take that as an invitation to cut in. On the other hand, typically the cultures are non-confrontational so as a person from the US I just get loud and be like what the fuck are you doing. They realize their mistake and sheepishly moved to the back. Very much a different cultural concept because most of the time no one else will say anything they just deal with it. I think in the US if you cut in line you might get shot or at minimum start some sort of physical altercation. And people just generally know this so they don't do it.
- ESTheComposer 3y ago
  I don't understand you, this post completely contradicts your original one. Why make a snarky remark about how people from the US don't understand being mindful of others while at the same time commenting on how people in Asia don't seem to be mindful of others when it comes to lines, and then straight up saying that people in the US are mindful of that very same thing?
- conductr 3y ago
  You recited the golden rule then proceed to explain your apparent joy in going full Karen on these people
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- pfannkuchen 3y ago
  > in the US if you cut in line you might get shot or at minimum start some sort of physical altercation Not sure if this is the reason. In Germany I don’t think you can expect to get shot or get into a fist fight, but I think people cut even less than they do in the US.

ESTheComposer 3y ago

> I know that's a rare concept in the USA especially. Everyone only thinks of themselves then gets mad when that attitude is turned around on them. I don't think I've ever been to a country where this isn't true, so not sure why you're singling out the US.

gabeio 3y ago
> I've never seen it happen here in the US but nearly every Asian flight I've been on during the food service they'll tell you to put your seat up. It sounds like they are from the US, so they are actually talking about their own experiences in their own country. In that sentence didn't state that part, not sure why.
- ESTheComposer 3y ago
  Yeah I get they're probably American but in their first experience they basically put down the US and in the same sentence imply other countries know better than us unmindful Americans, while also commenting in another post that the same Asian countries they praised have no concept of mindfulness when it comes to lines and that Americans do, and that they just go and yell in the Asian folks' faces if they dare cut in front of them in line. Just seems like a weirdly hypocritical thing and also that they might be jumping on the "US is uncultured" bandwagon that you see on Reddit and other social media these days

vore 3y ago

Why did you keep bringing the culture war into your post? You can just say you don't like it when people recline their seats during drink service without grinding your axe like this.

grepfru_it 3y ago

You should keep your arms to yourself, but middle seat always gets both arm rests. This might mean an elbow sticking an inch into your space. Window seat gets a window, aisle seat has the aisle. Middle seat is screwed, so give them the arm rests