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"Where is the revolution?" You know of any revolutions that solve inequality? All the ones in known history simply change who the winners and losers are and ma

"Where is the revolution?" You know of any revolutions that solve inequality? All the ones in known history simply change who the winners and losers are and maintain inequality. Inequality absolutely exists and "revolutions" that claim to fix it in fact... don't. Socialism/Communism/etc all fail spectacularly to solve the "issue" of inequality.

hgsgm 3y ago
French Revolution?
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- omginternets 3y ago
  Have you been paying attention to French politics lately? And incidentally, are you familiar with the atrocities committed during the revolution? The “vertical deportations” of the Vendée region might add some much-needed nuance to what I can only surmise to be your whitewashed, simplistic interpretation of the French Revolution. People excitedly waiting for revolution often have no idea what a revolution actually is. If they did, they’d be aware that the most fervent revolutionaries are among the first to be executed when the establishment is overthrown. They’d also have some awareness of how the old power structures are often replaced with equivalent ones. A revolution is a failure mode, not an end to be pursued. Read more history.
  - pyrale 3y ago
    > Have you been paying attention to French politics lately? To be fair, the last revolution in France was 150 years ago, things change quite a bit in 150 years. > your whitewashed, simplistic interpretation of the French Revolution You seem to be equally biased, if on the other side. Events as large as a revolution are complex enough that it is hard to fit them into a manichean assessment.
    - omginternets 3y ago
      It’s hardly “biased to the other side” to point out the missing half in someone’s reasoning.
      - pyrale 3y ago
        There is no missing half in pointing out that the French revolution solved some inequalities. For all the blood and failure it had, some changes it introduced proved to be irreversible, such as the introduction of a constitution, and the people becoming a significant political player that has to be acknowledged when ruling. And I would say that reading someone talk about some positive outcomes of an event and immediately feel compelled to call their views simplistic and whitewashed shows some bias.
- WalterBright 3y ago
  Which ended when Napoleon declared himself a hereditary monarch. The American Revolution barely averted a military dictatorship, because Washington turned down the offer from his officers. How many times has that happened in history? Only once that I know of, which makes Washington the greatest American President. I place Kennedy at #2, for avoiding nuclear war with the Soviets.
- Roark66 3y ago
  Ha ha, I love it. Are you going on a comedy tour soon?
bryanrasmussen 3y ago
>You know of any revolutions that solve inequality? All the ones in known history simply change who the winners and losers are and maintain inequality. right, well obviously the revolutions solves the inequality for the previous losers.

hgsgm 3y ago

French Revolution?

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omginternets 3y ago
Have you been paying attention to French politics lately? And incidentally, are you familiar with the atrocities committed during the revolution? The “vertical deportations” of the Vendée region might add some much-needed nuance to what I can only surmise to be your whitewashed, simplistic interpretation of the French Revolution. People excitedly waiting for revolution often have no idea what a revolution actually is. If they did, they’d be aware that the most fervent revolutionaries are among the first to be executed when the establishment is overthrown. They’d also have some awareness of how the old power structures are often replaced with equivalent ones. A revolution is a failure mode, not an end to be pursued. Read more history.
- pyrale 3y ago
  > Have you been paying attention to French politics lately? To be fair, the last revolution in France was 150 years ago, things change quite a bit in 150 years. > your whitewashed, simplistic interpretation of the French Revolution You seem to be equally biased, if on the other side. Events as large as a revolution are complex enough that it is hard to fit them into a manichean assessment.
  - omginternets 3y ago
    It’s hardly “biased to the other side” to point out the missing half in someone’s reasoning.
    - pyrale 3y ago
      There is no missing half in pointing out that the French revolution solved some inequalities. For all the blood and failure it had, some changes it introduced proved to be irreversible, such as the introduction of a constitution, and the people becoming a significant political player that has to be acknowledged when ruling. And I would say that reading someone talk about some positive outcomes of an event and immediately feel compelled to call their views simplistic and whitewashed shows some bias.
WalterBright 3y ago
Which ended when Napoleon declared himself a hereditary monarch. The American Revolution barely averted a military dictatorship, because Washington turned down the offer from his officers. How many times has that happened in history? Only once that I know of, which makes Washington the greatest American President. I place Kennedy at #2, for avoiding nuclear war with the Soviets.
Roark66 3y ago
Ha ha, I love it. Are you going on a comedy tour soon?

bryanrasmussen 3y ago

>You know of any revolutions that solve inequality? All the ones in known history simply change who the winners and losers are and maintain inequality. right, well obviously the revolutions solves the inequality for the previous losers.