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Just step across.

by idopmstuff 3y ago

Just step across.

californical 3y ago
Which is also illegal, btw, due to terrible us laws around public land
- Eduard 3y ago
  Just build a ladder high enough. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_rights https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_rights
  - labster 3y ago
    I see you, and raise you Cuius est solum, eius est usque ad coelum et ad inferos https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuius_est_solum,_eius_est_usque_ad_coelum_et_ad_inferos https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuius_est_solum,_eius_est_us...
  - mr_toad 3y ago
    Or parachute in. Not sure how you’d get out though.
    - Lev1a 3y ago
      > Not sure how you’d get out though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_surface-to-air_recovery_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_surface-to-air_recovery... , also known as "Skyhook" and pretty well demonstrated in "The Dark Knight".
    - SirMaster 3y ago
      Simple, you could use a Paramotor. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6dkRoX-Z6_A https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6dkRoX-Z6_A
- LastTrain 3y ago
  Seems as though it is not illegal, at least according to this ruling?
- labster 3y ago
  Not according to this ruling. But still possibly illegal in another federal circuit.
- bhickey 3y ago
  Blocking access to public lands is a violation of the Inclosures Act of 1885. https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title43/chapter25&edition=prelim https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title43/cha...
Jtsummers 3y ago
From reading the article, it appears that there was a fence (presumably intersecting sections of fence) that had to be overcome. Climbing the fences would be, nominally, stepping foot on those fenced properties. Using the ladder let them go over the corner boundary without actually having to step foot on the other two adjacent properties. | Public ---+--- Public | The fences belong to the private properties (if my understanding is correct) and the ladder lets them technically remain only, with regard to "setting foot", on the public properties.
- ryandrake 3y ago
  Clearly, the answer is to build a trebuchet to fling people across.
  - throwaway2037 3y ago
    This is a brilliant "Age of Empires 2" reference.
- lazide 3y ago
  The fence is also illegal.
  - throwaway2037 3y ago
    I tried to Google about this, but I could not find anything. As one this page, there are no serious discussions about this matter. Can you share a reference?
    - fragmede 3y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36158967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36158967
    - sophacles 3y ago
      The actual court ruling is here: https://www.wyd.uscourts.gov/sites/wyd/files/opinions/22-cv-67_SWS_Order.pdf https://www.wyd.uscourts.gov/sites/wyd/files/opinions/22-cv-... (kudos to whoever linked it up thread - couldn't find that comment again, but had it open in a tab).

Just step across.

californical 3y ago

Which is also illegal, btw, due to terrible us laws around public land

Eduard 3y ago
Just build a ladder high enough. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_rights https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_rights
- labster 3y ago
  I see you, and raise you Cuius est solum, eius est usque ad coelum et ad inferos https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuius_est_solum,_eius_est_usque_ad_coelum_et_ad_inferos https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuius_est_solum,_eius_est_us...
- mr_toad 3y ago
  Or parachute in. Not sure how you’d get out though.
  - Lev1a 3y ago
    > Not sure how you’d get out though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_surface-to-air_recovery_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_surface-to-air_recovery... , also known as "Skyhook" and pretty well demonstrated in "The Dark Knight".
  - SirMaster 3y ago
    Simple, you could use a Paramotor. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6dkRoX-Z6_A https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6dkRoX-Z6_A
LastTrain 3y ago
Seems as though it is not illegal, at least according to this ruling?
labster 3y ago
Not according to this ruling. But still possibly illegal in another federal circuit.
bhickey 3y ago
Blocking access to public lands is a violation of the Inclosures Act of 1885. https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title43/chapter25&edition=prelim https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title43/cha...

Jtsummers 3y ago

From reading the article, it appears that there was a fence (presumably intersecting sections of fence) that had to be overcome. Climbing the fences would be, nominally, stepping foot on those fenced properties. Using the ladder let them go over the corner boundary without actually having to step foot on the other two adjacent properties. | Public ---+--- Public | The fences belong to the private properties (if my understanding is correct) and the ladder lets them technically remain only, with regard to "setting foot", on the public properties.

ryandrake 3y ago
Clearly, the answer is to build a trebuchet to fling people across.
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  This is a brilliant "Age of Empires 2" reference.
lazide 3y ago
The fence is also illegal.
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  I tried to Google about this, but I could not find anything. As one this page, there are no serious discussions about this matter. Can you share a reference?
  - fragmede 3y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36158967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36158967
  - sophacles 3y ago
    The actual court ruling is here: https://www.wyd.uscourts.gov/sites/wyd/files/opinions/22-cv-67_SWS_Order.pdf https://www.wyd.uscourts.gov/sites/wyd/files/opinions/22-cv-... (kudos to whoever linked it up thread - couldn't find that comment again, but had it open in a tab).