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You can live together with someone, have kids and move with your kids without marriage, those things seem orthogonal to me.

• emodendroket 3y ago
  In this case let’s consider “marriage” a stand-in for “committed, long-term romantic relationship between two people” since that’s really what’s being compared throughout the discussion.
  • forty 3y ago
    Still, I don't have a very hard time imagining living alone (even though I'm in what we have just decided to consider "marriage" and we have kids), that seems a perfectly fine life to me, which would have also a center, which marriage would not be, even with this definition. Even in my situation, I would argue that the kids are more in the center than our relationship, as our parent-kids relationship is inalienable and forever, unlike our relationship with each other, which will last only while we are both happy about it.
    • emodendroket 3y ago
      Yes, but notice you have to imagine yourself single for this other reality to make sense.