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I think a better title might have been "Society can't optimize for rest". FIRE is a myth, only a small percentage of people will ever have the ability and means
by ok_dad 3y ago
I think a better title might have been "Society can't optimize for rest". FIRE is a myth, only a small percentage of people will ever have the ability and means to do it. A few can optimize for their own rest, on the backs of the rest of us who cannot and will have to work until close to death.
I think the only way you optimize society for rest on the whole would be to determine how much and what kind of time off humans need at the maxima, and then figure out how to schedule humans for the work that cannot be automated based on that. Suppose a human needs to have a month of time off per 6 months of 20 hour a week work, then we should assume no human can work for more than 20 hours a week 10 months a year, minus some other safety margin. I don't think there is ever going to be a day where society is able to optimize for rest to the extent that it's really needed, the pendulum will never swing as far as it needs to.
- UncleOxidant 3y ago> FIRE is a myth, only a small percentage of people will ever have the ability and means to do it And many of the early proponents of FIRE have been going back to work. Recently, Financial Samurai posted that he was going to return to work for various reasons (one being he's going to have to save up to pay for his kid's education).
- nathants 3y agofire may be a myth, but rest is occasional remote work, heloc, section 121, and moving every 2 years. usa only. ymmv. housing go brrr.
- jgauth 3y agoCan you describe more what you mean? Are you suggesting one could live by selling their home and purchasing a new one every 2 years, and doing something with credit secured by the home(s)? How does that relate to rest?
- Izkata 3y agoThe last part hints they're probably just mocking that viewpoint, it's a reference to https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/money-printer-go-brrr https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/money-printer-go-brrr
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- badpun 3y agoJacob Fisker Lund, the original FIRE grandaddy proved that, with lifestyle changes, you can retire in five years on $80k salary.