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Interesting. The table of contents is rewritten in modern cursive, though I can't read everything even there. Contents The Hunttinge of the Hare. A Mock

Interesting. The table of contents is rewritten in modern cursive, though I can't read everything even there. Contents The Hunttinge of the Hare. A Mock Sermon. ... From there we can flip forward to the actual content and ... yep, can't read it. Honestly the only reason I know it says "huntinge of the hare" centred at the top is because I read it in the table of contents. I can tell it's English, but that's about all I can tell, and that only because I can read some of the words, but not all of them. :) Maybe I can send the image to GPT-4 for transcription and translation. (lol)

Izkata 3y ago
Looks like a Gothic font with spelling differences, I think the first line translated is something like: > (something) tale I will now tell Except the spelling is like: > (something) take y wyll yow tell I can also read what seems to be "me to blame" on the 6th line.
- jacobolus 3y ago
  Here's the best I can do with the first bit, several edits later: A letyll tale y wyll yow tell y troye hit wyll lyke yow well þat ye shall habe gud game ooooo Bot were(?) it was y dar? not say for appyr.??ly a nod? day hit myght t?ne me to blame ooooooo ?ow take gud hede evrython(?) how a yomon come rydyng alon hafull fayre way he fond ooooooo he lokud be syde hym lyght glydand he fond a hare full fayr syttand a pon a falow lond ooooooooo he markyd wyll wher the fatt þ þkyd to the town as fast as he myght go þ way þen con he ha? ooooooo þ fyrst mon þt he mett wt all was a husbond hyght honkyn of þ hall a gud mon and a twwe(?) oooooooo ... We have letyll = little, wyll = will, troye = trust(?), hit = it, lyke = like, yow = you, habe = have, gud = good, yomon = yeoman, rydyng = riding, lokud = looked, be syde = beside, hym = him, fayr = fair, syttand = seated/sitting, etc. I think the y with dot over is "I", while the þ with a dot is "the" or "thou" etc. I'm not entirely sure what all the abbreviations are supposed to be. * * * Edit: there's apparently a full transcription at http://doi.org/10.1515/angl.2010.009 http://doi.org/10.1515/angl.2010.009 though it's not easy to accurately transcribe something like this so full of abbreviations, old spellings based on old pronunciations, archaic glyphs like ſ and þ, letters like u and v which have since diverged, etc.
  - poglet 3y ago
    Any idea why so many lines end in ooooooo?
    - jacobolus 3y ago
      You can look at the manuscript. I don't think it's really supposed to be letters – more like a decorative doodle – but I'm not sure what the deal is: https://digital.nls.uk/early-manuscripts/browse/archive/134161777?mode=fullsize https://digital.nls.uk/early-manuscripts/browse/archive/1341...
      - nomel 3y ago
        Perhaps "pause for audience laughter"?
        jacobolus 3y ago
        It's every third line in this poem/song so maybe you're right about leaving a gap for the music or something.
        IIAOPSW 3y ago
        Maybe its literal, like a bunch of people saying OOOOOohhhhhh..
      - isaacfrond 3y ago
        The paper is archived here: https://sci-hub.ru/https://doi.org/10.1515/angl.2010.009 https://sci-hub.ru/https://doi.org/10.1515/angl.2010.009 The first three stanzas translated by gpt4: A little tale I will tell you, I trust it will please you well, At it, you shall have good fun. But where it was I dare not say, Perhaps another day, It might turn me to blame. Now pay good heed everyone, How a yeoman came riding along, He found a very fair way. He looked beside him light gliding, He found a hare very fair sitting, Upon a fallow land. He marked well where she sat then, He rode to the town as fast as he could, The way then did he pursue. The first man that he met with, Was a husband named Howkin of the hall, A good man and a true. The yeoman said with laughing cheer, 'Does any gentleman dwell here, Good man, as God save you? Over there I have found a hare sitting, If you have any greyhounds, bring them with you, A chase there shall you have.'
alvarezbjm-hn 3y ago
I think the table of content is modern. It says "rebound in 1964" after all. This is what seems to be the first page of the text https://digital.nls.uk/early-manuscripts/browse/archive/134161777?mode=fullsize https://digital.nls.uk/early-manuscripts/browse/archive/1341... I recognize latin characters in what my classmates called "gothic font" in highschool. But I can't recognize the language.
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- scrumper 3y ago
  It's definitely English (modulo several centuries of spelling and words that have fallen away). Many words are recognizable but I can't read a whole sentence either - except maybe "But myself tho me to blame". Lots of conventions have changed: you really would need to study and practice to be able to make it through this, but not to the extent of learning a whole other language from scratch.
poglet 3y ago
If you take a screen capture then paste it into google image search then select the text or translate button - it also detects the English characters, but still makes very little sense to me.
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IIAOPSW 3y ago
"What's the deal with Hare Hunting?" funky hurdy gurdy bass line

Izkata 3y ago

Looks like a Gothic font with spelling differences, I think the first line translated is something like: > (something) tale I will now tell Except the spelling is like: > (something) take y wyll yow tell I can also read what seems to be "me to blame" on the 6th line.

jacobolus 3y ago
Here's the best I can do with the first bit, several edits later: A letyll tale y wyll yow tell y troye hit wyll lyke yow well þat ye shall habe gud game ooooo Bot were(?) it was y dar? not say for appyr.??ly a nod? day hit myght t?ne me to blame ooooooo ?ow take gud hede evrython(?) how a yomon come rydyng alon hafull fayre way he fond ooooooo he lokud be syde hym lyght glydand he fond a hare full fayr syttand a pon a falow lond ooooooooo he markyd wyll wher the fatt þ þkyd to the town as fast as he myght go þ way þen con he ha? ooooooo þ fyrst mon þt he mett wt all was a husbond hyght honkyn of þ hall a gud mon and a twwe(?) oooooooo ... We have letyll = little, wyll = will, troye = trust(?), hit = it, lyke = like, yow = you, habe = have, gud = good, yomon = yeoman, rydyng = riding, lokud = looked, be syde = beside, hym = him, fayr = fair, syttand = seated/sitting, etc. I think the y with dot over is "I", while the þ with a dot is "the" or "thou" etc. I'm not entirely sure what all the abbreviations are supposed to be. * * * Edit: there's apparently a full transcription at http://doi.org/10.1515/angl.2010.009 http://doi.org/10.1515/angl.2010.009 though it's not easy to accurately transcribe something like this so full of abbreviations, old spellings based on old pronunciations, archaic glyphs like ſ and þ, letters like u and v which have since diverged, etc.
- poglet 3y ago
  Any idea why so many lines end in ooooooo?
  - jacobolus 3y ago
    You can look at the manuscript. I don't think it's really supposed to be letters – more like a decorative doodle – but I'm not sure what the deal is: https://digital.nls.uk/early-manuscripts/browse/archive/134161777?mode=fullsize https://digital.nls.uk/early-manuscripts/browse/archive/1341...
    - nomel 3y ago
      Perhaps "pause for audience laughter"?
      - jacobolus 3y ago
        It's every third line in this poem/song so maybe you're right about leaving a gap for the music or something.
        IIAOPSW 3y ago
        Maybe its literal, like a bunch of people saying OOOOOohhhhhh..
    - isaacfrond 3y ago
      The paper is archived here: https://sci-hub.ru/https://doi.org/10.1515/angl.2010.009 https://sci-hub.ru/https://doi.org/10.1515/angl.2010.009 The first three stanzas translated by gpt4: A little tale I will tell you, I trust it will please you well, At it, you shall have good fun. But where it was I dare not say, Perhaps another day, It might turn me to blame. Now pay good heed everyone, How a yeoman came riding along, He found a very fair way. He looked beside him light gliding, He found a hare very fair sitting, Upon a fallow land. He marked well where she sat then, He rode to the town as fast as he could, The way then did he pursue. The first man that he met with, Was a husband named Howkin of the hall, A good man and a true. The yeoman said with laughing cheer, 'Does any gentleman dwell here, Good man, as God save you? Over there I have found a hare sitting, If you have any greyhounds, bring them with you, A chase there shall you have.'

alvarezbjm-hn 3y ago

I think the table of content is modern. It says "rebound in 1964" after all. This is what seems to be the first page of the text https://digital.nls.uk/early-manuscripts/browse/archive/134161777?mode=fullsize https://digital.nls.uk/early-manuscripts/browse/archive/1341... I recognize latin characters in what my classmates called "gothic font" in highschool. But I can't recognize the language.

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scrumper 3y ago
It's definitely English (modulo several centuries of spelling and words that have fallen away). Many words are recognizable but I can't read a whole sentence either - except maybe "But myself tho me to blame". Lots of conventions have changed: you really would need to study and practice to be able to make it through this, but not to the extent of learning a whole other language from scratch.

poglet 3y ago

If you take a screen capture then paste it into google image search then select the text or translate button - it also detects the English characters, but still makes very little sense to me.

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IIAOPSW 3y ago

"What's the deal with Hare Hunting?" funky hurdy gurdy bass line