> >HIPPA has made it basically impossible to do science in Medicine without being part of the establishment I really don't follow this line of reasoning at all

> >HIPPA has made it basically impossible to do science in Medicine without being part of the establishment I really don't follow this line of reasoning at all. If anything, HIPAA makes it really hard for "the establishment" to do medicine. It actually doesn't apply to non-"establishment" actors at all, because they're largely independent entities that are not subject to HIPAA by law.