I agree, though that might be where the survivorship bias comes in -- it seems like Elm's ideas have been massively successful and I would say are now the most

I agree, though that might be where the survivorship bias comes in -- it seems like Elm's ideas have been massively successful and I would say are now the most common way to produce webapps. But people choose to take the ideas while discarding the language, and that's where I suspect community mismanagement was a large cause.