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Always good to see mac ports of games. I don't understand why Apple doesn't lean more into the gaming market. They have great hardware and it's a huge pool of p

Always good to see mac ports of games. I don't understand why Apple doesn't lean more into the gaming market. They have great hardware and it's a huge pool of people

ezekg 3y ago
I literally just switched to Windows from Mac full-time so that I could feel like I can game more often. I have a dual-boot Hackintosh, and booting into Windows simply to game was always a chore because I'd lose all my open windows/tabs on Mac. So much of a chore that I essentially gave up gaming. (Not to mention that when I did boot into Windows, the next few hours were spent downloading OS and game updates.) I do wish that AAA games on Mac were more common. But WSL2 is super nice, so w/e.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  That was what I did until moving to Linux full-time. WSL is awesome, but really just a gateway drug to running a full-fat Linux system. One day I just switched and never looked back. Valve's Proton is truly a game-changer worth trying, if you haven't already.
  - ezekg 3y ago
    How is performance with Proton? I typically play shooters and I need my 144+ FPS.
    - smoldesu 3y ago
      Totally usable. Performance degradation differs from game-to-game, but even the worst-case-scenario titles rarely lose more than 20% performance. On my old GTX 1050ti, I was able to play Overwatch through Wine at 120fps (albeit barely). My 3070ti drives the same 1440p@144hz display pretty comfortably, the only thing you'll really be missing on Linux is HDR support. Getting Linux to work right, on the other hand, is a bit of a different story. It's a painless process on Intel and AMD-based GPUs, but Nvidia drivers are still not as good as they could be. Phoronix actually did a really interesting comparison recently that examines the performance you lose: https://www.phoronix.com/review/wayland-nv-amd-2023 https://www.phoronix.com/review/wayland-nv-amd-2023 So, overall I recommend it. Use Wayland if you want to take your frame timings seriously, and you probably won't be super disappointed. You might not instantly delete Windows, but it's nice to have options.
    - tapoxi 3y ago
      Performance is fine, the problem is that most multiplayer shooters won't support running on Linux due to their anticheat implementations.
- cjenken 3y ago
  I just did the opposite. Bought a low end Mac Mini M2 since I mostly use my main computer to remote into work and I'm mostly just in a Browser, Slack and Remote desktop all day. I figured that I'd might as well get something that uses less power since summer was coming and it's made a huge difference in my electricity usage (windows workstation/game machine power idles at about 250W) and heat generation in my small home office. Now if I want to play a game that's not on my mac I just turn on the Windows machine that's now in another room and then log into it with Parsec. Once I'm done I shut down the machine and I'm back to low power with just the Mac mini.
throw_pm23 3y ago
I think Steve Jobs was largely opposed to addictive, non-social stuff. There may be some institutional inertia continuing that path.

Always good to see mac ports of games. I don't understand why Apple doesn't lean more into the gaming market. They have great hardware and it's a huge pool of people

ezekg 3y ago

I literally just switched to Windows from Mac full-time so that I could feel like I can game more often. I have a dual-boot Hackintosh, and booting into Windows simply to game was always a chore because I'd lose all my open windows/tabs on Mac. So much of a chore that I essentially gave up gaming. (Not to mention that when I did boot into Windows, the next few hours were spent downloading OS and game updates.) I do wish that AAA games on Mac were more common. But WSL2 is super nice, so w/e.

smoldesu 3y ago
That was what I did until moving to Linux full-time. WSL is awesome, but really just a gateway drug to running a full-fat Linux system. One day I just switched and never looked back. Valve's Proton is truly a game-changer worth trying, if you haven't already.
- ezekg 3y ago
  How is performance with Proton? I typically play shooters and I need my 144+ FPS.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    Totally usable. Performance degradation differs from game-to-game, but even the worst-case-scenario titles rarely lose more than 20% performance. On my old GTX 1050ti, I was able to play Overwatch through Wine at 120fps (albeit barely). My 3070ti drives the same 1440p@144hz display pretty comfortably, the only thing you'll really be missing on Linux is HDR support. Getting Linux to work right, on the other hand, is a bit of a different story. It's a painless process on Intel and AMD-based GPUs, but Nvidia drivers are still not as good as they could be. Phoronix actually did a really interesting comparison recently that examines the performance you lose: https://www.phoronix.com/review/wayland-nv-amd-2023 https://www.phoronix.com/review/wayland-nv-amd-2023 So, overall I recommend it. Use Wayland if you want to take your frame timings seriously, and you probably won't be super disappointed. You might not instantly delete Windows, but it's nice to have options.
  - tapoxi 3y ago
    Performance is fine, the problem is that most multiplayer shooters won't support running on Linux due to their anticheat implementations.
cjenken 3y ago
I just did the opposite. Bought a low end Mac Mini M2 since I mostly use my main computer to remote into work and I'm mostly just in a Browser, Slack and Remote desktop all day. I figured that I'd might as well get something that uses less power since summer was coming and it's made a huge difference in my electricity usage (windows workstation/game machine power idles at about 250W) and heat generation in my small home office. Now if I want to play a game that's not on my mac I just turn on the Windows machine that's now in another room and then log into it with Parsec. Once I'm done I shut down the machine and I'm back to low power with just the Mac mini.

throw_pm23 3y ago

I think Steve Jobs was largely opposed to addictive, non-social stuff. There may be some institutional inertia continuing that path.