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I am always amused that the discourse around LSD uses the term “microdosing”. We know that tiny doses can harm and hurt humans. Claiming that many uses are “mic

I am always amused that the discourse around LSD uses the term “microdosing”. We know that tiny doses can harm and hurt humans. Claiming that many uses are “microdoses” is rationalization. Edit: I meant to say “harm and help”, not “harm and hurt”.

_a_a_a_ 3y ago
> We know that tiny doses can harm and hurt humans Evidence? (Other than tiny doses of anything potentially can cause harm and hurt, assuming harm and hurt are 2 different things, not perhaps the same thing repeated in different ways to make an emotive appeal)
xXTyrannosXx 3y ago
The dose for LSD to be harmful is extremely high and you would likely never encounter anyone selling anywhere close to the amount needed. The biggest threat to the user is the contamination of the LSD by possibly fentanyl or other opiates due to the unregulated nature of the black market.
- klyrs 3y ago
  On a previous thread here about LSD I learned about NBOMe -- it's a hallucinogen that's sold on paper tabs; if a dealer (or their supplier) is unscrupulous they might sell it as LSD. Only problem? Where psychonauts feel comfortable eating mouthfuls of LSD tabs, the difference between noticeable and harmful doses is quite small with NBOMe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25I-NBOMe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25I-NBOMe
- bagacrap 3y ago
  Lsd is one of the hardest substances to synthesize but the effective dose is so small that the price is almost free. Therefore someone who has real LSD to sell would not bother contaminating it. (At least I have not heard of that.) However you may be sold something that's not LSD at all but is advertised as such.
pessimizer 3y ago
You seem to know of a discourse where "microdose" implies that something has no effect. Why would they be taking it if it had no effect? > We know that tiny doses can harm and hurt humans. We don't know that tiny doses of LSD can harm or hurt humans. What we do observe is that smaller amounts of things tend to have smaller effects than larger amounts of things.

_a_a_a_ 3y ago

> We know that tiny doses can harm and hurt humans Evidence? (Other than tiny doses of anything potentially can cause harm and hurt, assuming harm and hurt are 2 different things, not perhaps the same thing repeated in different ways to make an emotive appeal)

xXTyrannosXx 3y ago

The dose for LSD to be harmful is extremely high and you would likely never encounter anyone selling anywhere close to the amount needed. The biggest threat to the user is the contamination of the LSD by possibly fentanyl or other opiates due to the unregulated nature of the black market.

klyrs 3y ago
On a previous thread here about LSD I learned about NBOMe -- it's a hallucinogen that's sold on paper tabs; if a dealer (or their supplier) is unscrupulous they might sell it as LSD. Only problem? Where psychonauts feel comfortable eating mouthfuls of LSD tabs, the difference between noticeable and harmful doses is quite small with NBOMe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25I-NBOMe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25I-NBOMe
bagacrap 3y ago
Lsd is one of the hardest substances to synthesize but the effective dose is so small that the price is almost free. Therefore someone who has real LSD to sell would not bother contaminating it. (At least I have not heard of that.) However you may be sold something that's not LSD at all but is advertised as such.

pessimizer 3y ago

You seem to know of a discourse where "microdose" implies that something has no effect. Why would they be taking it if it had no effect? > We know that tiny doses can harm and hurt humans. We don't know that tiny doses of LSD can harm or hurt humans. What we do observe is that smaller amounts of things tend to have smaller effects than larger amounts of things.