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>Actual tasks I need humans to do today: - performing a medical exam on my dad to see if he needs vascular surgery - cleaning my bathroom - writing a pe

>Actual tasks I need humans to do today: - performing a medical exam on my dad to see if he needs vascular surgery - cleaning my bathroom - writing a performance review for a software engineer - investigating a react codebase that uses redux in some places and not others to determine a strategy for better state management - driving my daughter to the gym after school These are tasks bottlenecked by embodiment not intelligence Personalized robot assistance - https://tidybot.cs.princeton.edu/ https://tidybot.cs.princeton.edu/ Software development - https://ai.googleblog.com/2023/05/large-sequence-models-for-software.html?m=1 https://ai.googleblog.com/2023/05/large-sequence-models-for-...

gensym 3y ago
Why do you think embodiment isn't intelligence? I'm genuinely curious (i.e., this isn't a rhetorical question) because that seems to be a common assumption among folks who talk about intelligence, and I honestly don't understand it. For example, I enjoy rock-climbing as a hobby. Doing it involves literally learning new patterns of movement. That's part of what makes it fun. I don't understand why that isn't considered intelligence, while learning the steps to, say, invert a matrix is.
- famouswaffles 3y ago
  >For example, I enjoy rock-climbing as a hobby. Doing it involves literally learning new patterns of movement. Sure but does your ability to learn new patterns of movement have much to do with having the hands to climb ? Do you think an amputated person would be less intelligent than you because he could not climb the same rocks ? Would a blind man be less intelligent than you because he couldn't drive ? You can't go and ask GPT-4 to go clean your room right now. But is it because it's not intelligent enough to understand what it means to tidy up your room and go about doing that ? Or is the default inability to see and touch the real issue ? Many papers/demonstrations including what I linked point overwhelmingly to the latter.

gensym 3y ago

Why do you think embodiment isn't intelligence? I'm genuinely curious (i.e., this isn't a rhetorical question) because that seems to be a common assumption among folks who talk about intelligence, and I honestly don't understand it. For example, I enjoy rock-climbing as a hobby. Doing it involves literally learning new patterns of movement. That's part of what makes it fun. I don't understand why that isn't considered intelligence, while learning the steps to, say, invert a matrix is.

famouswaffles 3y ago
>For example, I enjoy rock-climbing as a hobby. Doing it involves literally learning new patterns of movement. Sure but does your ability to learn new patterns of movement have much to do with having the hands to climb ? Do you think an amputated person would be less intelligent than you because he could not climb the same rocks ? Would a blind man be less intelligent than you because he couldn't drive ? You can't go and ask GPT-4 to go clean your room right now. But is it because it's not intelligent enough to understand what it means to tidy up your room and go about doing that ? Or is the default inability to see and touch the real issue ? Many papers/demonstrations including what I linked point overwhelmingly to the latter.