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This video argues "shoplifting from large corporations might be OK because who cares about their bottom line. Nobody I know is getting hurt." How misguided!

This video argues "shoplifting from large corporations might be OK because who cares about their bottom line. Nobody I know is getting hurt." How misguided! Not only does this perspective indicate a lack of core values, it results in retail deserts as said corporations retreat from lawlessness. You'll be directly impacted when your neighborhood Walgreens closes. Watch this video from yesterday: https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/13x3d7s/retail_exodus_in_san_francisco/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/13x3d7s/retai...

ipaddr 3y ago
But if every target or walgreens closed it would open the market for others. I'm okay with less walgreens/walmarts.
- toast0 3y ago
  Who wants to enter the market of providing retail in places with rampant shoplifting?
- pb7 3y ago
  No it wouldn't. No one is going to open a store just to be stolen from.
- samcheng 3y ago
  I strongly support small business as well, but unfortunately the reality right now (in San Francisco, at least) is empty storefronts. Lots of them.
coding123 3y ago
Another tidbit from the video "If I instead had 10000 Nintendos sitting in a warehouse somewhere and someone stole 1 of them, wouldn't really cause me a lot of distress or pain" The main problem with this line of reasoning, and heck, the entire act of trying to weaken "stealing" in general, is that the overall result is that you now have more than 1 person stealing a nintendo. In fact because of the internet, things going viral, you might even have a double digit percentage of those nintendos, being stolen. We build up and break down societies rules by things we do every single day. The more we break them down, the more we see crap happening. If everyone stole every nintendo, well, Good bye to Zelda in general. That company won't want to even make that game. I totally agree with the part of the video that argued people so poor that they can't eat that it would be basically justified for them to steal bread at a large business. I think however it would be even better if that person tried to find as many legal options to do that instead. And in general, tried to get a job. If they're still capable of stealing, they can probably do a job somewhere. But yes, at the bottom, steal the loaf of bread, but don't stay there forever.
- samcheng 3y ago
  Those at the bottom shouldn't need to steal a loaf of bread. We have a community and government both providing a social safety net to give them not only a loaf of bread, but also a path out of destitution.
  - coding123 3y ago
    Yes but how many people that recently go homeless and poor know how to get into that. It's not like you open the front page of reddit and it has step 1 2 and 3 for how to get food. I looked further on a google search and found a Salvation Army link on free soup kitchens, clicked California, and couldn't find any of the Counties I'm near right now. We don't even have a class in high school to tell people what to do if they find themselves poor. There is literally no training or help.

ipaddr 3y ago

But if every target or walgreens closed it would open the market for others. I'm okay with less walgreens/walmarts.

toast0 3y ago
Who wants to enter the market of providing retail in places with rampant shoplifting?
pb7 3y ago
No it wouldn't. No one is going to open a store just to be stolen from.
samcheng 3y ago
I strongly support small business as well, but unfortunately the reality right now (in San Francisco, at least) is empty storefronts. Lots of them.

coding123 3y ago

Another tidbit from the video "If I instead had 10000 Nintendos sitting in a warehouse somewhere and someone stole 1 of them, wouldn't really cause me a lot of distress or pain" The main problem with this line of reasoning, and heck, the entire act of trying to weaken "stealing" in general, is that the overall result is that you now have more than 1 person stealing a nintendo. In fact because of the internet, things going viral, you might even have a double digit percentage of those nintendos, being stolen. We build up and break down societies rules by things we do every single day. The more we break them down, the more we see crap happening. If everyone stole every nintendo, well, Good bye to Zelda in general. That company won't want to even make that game. I totally agree with the part of the video that argued people so poor that they can't eat that it would be basically justified for them to steal bread at a large business. I think however it would be even better if that person tried to find as many legal options to do that instead. And in general, tried to get a job. If they're still capable of stealing, they can probably do a job somewhere. But yes, at the bottom, steal the loaf of bread, but don't stay there forever.

samcheng 3y ago
Those at the bottom shouldn't need to steal a loaf of bread. We have a community and government both providing a social safety net to give them not only a loaf of bread, but also a path out of destitution.
- coding123 3y ago
  Yes but how many people that recently go homeless and poor know how to get into that. It's not like you open the front page of reddit and it has step 1 2 and 3 for how to get food. I looked further on a google search and found a Salvation Army link on free soup kitchens, clicked California, and couldn't find any of the Counties I'm near right now. We don't even have a class in high school to tell people what to do if they find themselves poor. There is literally no training or help.