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I really wish mamavation would link the study they are citing... Did I just miss it? They have numbers, but don't give you access outside of the article or el

I really wish mamavation would link the study they are citing... Did I just miss it? They have numbers, but don't give you access outside of the article or elaborate on the responses of the companies. I'm going ask burst about this, because the polyester or wax should have no flourine as far as I can tell. I have a pfas testing center near me - If I test this soon I'll make a show hn or something.

flanbiscuit 3y ago
I don't think they were citing anything. They supposedly performed their own tests. The very first sentence of the first paragraph says: > Mamavation sent 39 different dental floss products off to an EPA-certified laboratory to look for indications of PFAS “forever chemicals.” and there's also this: > Disclosure: This consumer study is released in partnership with Environmental Health News. Scientific reviews were performed by (1) Terrence Collins, Teresa Heinz Professor of Green Chemistry & Director of Institute for Green Sciences at Carnegie Mellon University, (2) Linda Birnbaum, Scientist Emeritus and Former Director of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and National Toxicology Program, & (3) Pete Myers, Chief Scientist at Environmental Health Sciences, Adjunct Professor of Chemistry at Carnegie Mellon University, and Co-Author of Our Stolen Future. This post was medically reviewed by Sondra Strand, RN, BSN, PHN. Donations were provided by Environmental Health News and Mamavation community members. This post contains affiliate links. Well, they actually do mention an existing study and link to it: > In a study published in 2019 in the Journal of Exposure Science & Environmental Epidemiology, researchers found that women who flossed with tooth floss product Oral-B Glide dental floss had higher levels of PFAS in their blood than those women who didn’t. After marker testing was run on Oral-B Glide, it was confirmed that this product had indications of PFAS “forever chemicals” intentionally added to the product. which had a link to this: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-018-0109-y https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-018-0109-y All that being said, almost all of this site's articles are either "This is bad, buy this instead" or "Best and Worst X", all with affiliate links.
- monetus 3y ago
  Yeah, the affiliate link thing gives it a propaganda feel but I wanted to know where the 1),2),3) linked to. I went to the ehn site and found the same article, but not much more detail. I found the first researcher listed, https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Terrence-Collins https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Terrence-Collins but not immediately a pfas focused study, so just a little confused. If it does have pfas incidentally, I'm guessing it came from a place that processed pfas and microcrystalline wax. I know they scaled up recently, and I'm curiously guessing that their supply line changed... For better or worse I wonder. Regardless, more polyester production isn't great, and shreddable pfas is terrible, so go with what you can find that is best. I haven't gone down the amazon rabbit hole yet.

flanbiscuit 3y ago

I don't think they were citing anything. They supposedly performed their own tests. The very first sentence of the first paragraph says: > Mamavation sent 39 different dental floss products off to an EPA-certified laboratory to look for indications of PFAS “forever chemicals.” and there's also this: > Disclosure: This consumer study is released in partnership with Environmental Health News. Scientific reviews were performed by (1) Terrence Collins, Teresa Heinz Professor of Green Chemistry & Director of Institute for Green Sciences at Carnegie Mellon University, (2) Linda Birnbaum, Scientist Emeritus and Former Director of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and National Toxicology Program, & (3) Pete Myers, Chief Scientist at Environmental Health Sciences, Adjunct Professor of Chemistry at Carnegie Mellon University, and Co-Author of Our Stolen Future. This post was medically reviewed by Sondra Strand, RN, BSN, PHN. Donations were provided by Environmental Health News and Mamavation community members. This post contains affiliate links. Well, they actually do mention an existing study and link to it: > In a study published in 2019 in the Journal of Exposure Science & Environmental Epidemiology, researchers found that women who flossed with tooth floss product Oral-B Glide dental floss had higher levels of PFAS in their blood than those women who didn’t. After marker testing was run on Oral-B Glide, it was confirmed that this product had indications of PFAS “forever chemicals” intentionally added to the product. which had a link to this: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-018-0109-y https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-018-0109-y All that being said, almost all of this site's articles are either "This is bad, buy this instead" or "Best and Worst X", all with affiliate links.

monetus 3y ago
Yeah, the affiliate link thing gives it a propaganda feel but I wanted to know where the 1),2),3) linked to. I went to the ehn site and found the same article, but not much more detail. I found the first researcher listed, https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Terrence-Collins https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Terrence-Collins but not immediately a pfas focused study, so just a little confused. If it does have pfas incidentally, I'm guessing it came from a place that processed pfas and microcrystalline wax. I know they scaled up recently, and I'm curiously guessing that their supply line changed... For better or worse I wonder. Regardless, more polyester production isn't great, and shreddable pfas is terrible, so go with what you can find that is best. I haven't gone down the amazon rabbit hole yet.