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Its not a fool proof solution, but the hope is, it should significantly reduce the likelihood of breaking your commitments. I was considering supporting anti-c

Its not a fool proof solution, but the hope is, it should significantly reduce the likelihood of breaking your commitments. I was considering supporting anti-charities (e.g. NRA, DNC etc..), but I thought that was unnecessarily distracting.

anonyfox 3y ago
well I am probably kinda the hardcore target group. I can clearly spot, articulate and act on problems (like being overweight and out of shape). I go deep into the scientific (and also pseudo for fun) discussions about anything in the process, can roughly understand it, relate that to my personal situation, and make absolutely great plans how to tackle it. iE1 (body recomp): calorie counting app, tracking everything that goes in, including hydration + sleep, go into an optimized sports programme and give it all I got, keep an eye on optimal macro/micro, applying social pressure on myself... and so on, everything that might have an impact + preplanned schedules and optimized convenience factors to do the right thing, right from the start. After a few weeks, I just stop it. Doing unhealthy stuff again, ignoring all tracking/notes/plans/appointments and even handwaive the social pressure. Also initial investment (sometimes quite significant) = money factor is just something I shrug off in that mood. iE2 (building software): I have a good enough idea, sometimes even things I really desperately want for myself. I have a vast toolset of mastered tech stacks at my hands I can use right away, can setup good implementation plans, start with shipping "hello world" to production first (me being a devops many years) and iterate quickly. Also include customer journeys and marketing key points right off the gate. Code written to my personal high standards including full testsuites/coverage, clean component libraries, whatever fits, and also keeping an eye on security and performance. I don't even have to worry much about any expensive hosting/operations costs at all at this point. Still after 2 weeks max, I abandon the project... quite often with a working state that actually is good and usable (most MVPs are in a worse state, as they should). Its like no matter what I do, there are zero issues for me to research a thing and jumpstart doing it the right (as in: best effort research that looks like actually working) way, and then just stopping it after some time for no particular reason. Somehow my brain just can't be forced for an extended amount of time. Being aware of that, I also tried several things that are recommended to build up discipline, from atomic habits of different flavors to gratefulnes diaries, so far nothing worked. To give you an idea: I am not able to brush my teeth every single morning/evening as a man in my 30s, its more like 5 out of 7 days roughly. Also I have no attention shortages and can comfortably read a full book cover-to-cover nonstop, meditate or keep the focus of a full-day meeting on track with multiple persons in the room trying to derail. If someone truly had a solution that works in my case, I'd pay a high premium for that with a smiling face. So far, only failures, and a hopeless me.
- ishjoh 3y ago
  I'm curious about example 1. It sounds like you had all the right things in place so I have a few questions for you: 1. Were you just so hungry that you didn't want to stick with it anymore? What was your daily calorie deficit? 2. Did you enjoy your sports program or was it a chore to do?
  - anonyfox 3y ago
    1) I am pre-trained in fasting extended amounts of time and actually enjoy it, being hungry wasn't the problem. but sometimes (quite often for me unfortunately) adult life happens, and I just have to do something like eating business lunch with a client or some holiday feast with the family. A few times of these things happening (sometimes even within 1 week) and after a while I just think "fuck it". The only thing I actually can keep for many months now is going meatless, but this was a great body response feeling within few days and just staying noticeably good, including appetite changes over time I spotted (like preference for fresh vegetables and fruits I never had before) as well as a disgust now to kill/eat animals, so this is now a natural body reaction on a lower level. 2) the usual dopamine loop seemed to work for me here, like the workout itself was intense (nearly fainting after lifting sometimes), feeling a small high afterwards, and even enjoyed the DOMS 2 days after proudly, also helped noticeably in stress reduction to move (accumulated over sets) a few tons of iron. had a kind of personal coach (even though shared with others when I didn't need him) and felt well in my gym environment - everything on point. After a while, I stopped going for no particular reason.
- ekanes 3y ago
  You seem like a very interesting person! > Also I have no attention shortages and can comfortably read a full book cover-to-cover nonstop, meditate or keep the focus of a full-day meeting on track with multiple persons in the room trying to derail. In mentioning this, it sounds like you're addressing that it's probably not adhd, but I'd gently mention that these don't disqualify adhd quite as much as you might think. I'm not 100% sure what you mean by no attention shortages, but the desire for novelty within systems and not just any given moment (eg. I can start a system but always lose it) is common for many of us Now kids. :) Reading a book cover to cover is an example of hyperfocus, and adhd trait. Crushing a full day of meetings with many people trying to derail is actually an adhd superpower imho. It's that when we're BORED we're super distractable, but when we're putting out fires, and it's go go go we can do very well. I don't know you well, and I'm also working on making tools for this space (super early tho) but I'd recommend perhaps getting tested, because the right medication changes peoples LIVES. Search reddit for stories. Days when I'm on adderall vs not are hugely different. Good luck to you and thanks for sharing.

anonyfox 3y ago

well I am probably kinda the hardcore target group. I can clearly spot, articulate and act on problems (like being overweight and out of shape). I go deep into the scientific (and also pseudo for fun) discussions about anything in the process, can roughly understand it, relate that to my personal situation, and make absolutely great plans how to tackle it. iE1 (body recomp): calorie counting app, tracking everything that goes in, including hydration + sleep, go into an optimized sports programme and give it all I got, keep an eye on optimal macro/micro, applying social pressure on myself... and so on, everything that might have an impact + preplanned schedules and optimized convenience factors to do the right thing, right from the start. After a few weeks, I just stop it. Doing unhealthy stuff again, ignoring all tracking/notes/plans/appointments and even handwaive the social pressure. Also initial investment (sometimes quite significant) = money factor is just something I shrug off in that mood. iE2 (building software): I have a good enough idea, sometimes even things I really desperately want for myself. I have a vast toolset of mastered tech stacks at my hands I can use right away, can setup good implementation plans, start with shipping "hello world" to production first (me being a devops many years) and iterate quickly. Also include customer journeys and marketing key points right off the gate. Code written to my personal high standards including full testsuites/coverage, clean component libraries, whatever fits, and also keeping an eye on security and performance. I don't even have to worry much about any expensive hosting/operations costs at all at this point. Still after 2 weeks max, I abandon the project... quite often with a working state that actually is good and usable (most MVPs are in a worse state, as they should). Its like no matter what I do, there are zero issues for me to research a thing and jumpstart doing it the right (as in: best effort research that looks like actually working) way, and then just stopping it after some time for no particular reason. Somehow my brain just can't be forced for an extended amount of time. Being aware of that, I also tried several things that are recommended to build up discipline, from atomic habits of different flavors to gratefulnes diaries, so far nothing worked. To give you an idea: I am not able to brush my teeth every single morning/evening as a man in my 30s, its more like 5 out of 7 days roughly. Also I have no attention shortages and can comfortably read a full book cover-to-cover nonstop, meditate or keep the focus of a full-day meeting on track with multiple persons in the room trying to derail. If someone truly had a solution that works in my case, I'd pay a high premium for that with a smiling face. So far, only failures, and a hopeless me.

ishjoh 3y ago
I'm curious about example 1. It sounds like you had all the right things in place so I have a few questions for you: 1. Were you just so hungry that you didn't want to stick with it anymore? What was your daily calorie deficit? 2. Did you enjoy your sports program or was it a chore to do?
- anonyfox 3y ago
  1) I am pre-trained in fasting extended amounts of time and actually enjoy it, being hungry wasn't the problem. but sometimes (quite often for me unfortunately) adult life happens, and I just have to do something like eating business lunch with a client or some holiday feast with the family. A few times of these things happening (sometimes even within 1 week) and after a while I just think "fuck it". The only thing I actually can keep for many months now is going meatless, but this was a great body response feeling within few days and just staying noticeably good, including appetite changes over time I spotted (like preference for fresh vegetables and fruits I never had before) as well as a disgust now to kill/eat animals, so this is now a natural body reaction on a lower level. 2) the usual dopamine loop seemed to work for me here, like the workout itself was intense (nearly fainting after lifting sometimes), feeling a small high afterwards, and even enjoyed the DOMS 2 days after proudly, also helped noticeably in stress reduction to move (accumulated over sets) a few tons of iron. had a kind of personal coach (even though shared with others when I didn't need him) and felt well in my gym environment - everything on point. After a while, I stopped going for no particular reason.
ekanes 3y ago
You seem like a very interesting person! > Also I have no attention shortages and can comfortably read a full book cover-to-cover nonstop, meditate or keep the focus of a full-day meeting on track with multiple persons in the room trying to derail. In mentioning this, it sounds like you're addressing that it's probably not adhd, but I'd gently mention that these don't disqualify adhd quite as much as you might think. I'm not 100% sure what you mean by no attention shortages, but the desire for novelty within systems and not just any given moment (eg. I can start a system but always lose it) is common for many of us Now kids. :) Reading a book cover to cover is an example of hyperfocus, and adhd trait. Crushing a full day of meetings with many people trying to derail is actually an adhd superpower imho. It's that when we're BORED we're super distractable, but when we're putting out fires, and it's go go go we can do very well. I don't know you well, and I'm also working on making tools for this space (super early tho) but I'd recommend perhaps getting tested, because the right medication changes peoples LIVES. Search reddit for stories. Days when I'm on adderall vs not are hugely different. Good luck to you and thanks for sharing.