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> The casual sex "choice" doesn't apply to the majority of adults (most straight men don't have the option of multiple sex partners, most women don't want them)
by thomastjeffery 3y ago
> The casual sex "choice" doesn't apply to the majority of adults (most straight men don't have the option of multiple sex partners, most women don't want them) so it's difficult to see its relevance here.
How much of that is social expectation? I can see the circular reasoning here: can I get out?
That is a challenge. Social expectations set boundaries: changing those boundaries takes a lot of work. It's still possible, though. To me, it's worth the effort.
- medo-bear 3y agothere are plenty of societal pressures against family life. and societal expectations are against faith and trust in the other person
- thomastjeffery 3y ago> societal expectations are against faith and trust in the other person That implies a need for faith and trust in a person. Where does is that need come from? Committed romance. If that isn't my goal, what do I have to fear?
- medo-bear 3y agoi believe that need is an intrinsicaly human need
- thomastjeffery 3y agoAnd I don't. Have you considered my position, or did you just want to express your own?
- medo-bear 3y agohard to argue with a guy who thinks he is socrates
- thomastjeffery 3y agoBecause you don't have an argument of your own? I'm not here to belittle you personally. I'm here to confront your ideas. What are you here for?
- stuckinhell 3y agoYou are probably correct, watching what people DO rather that what they SAY. Just look how fast America went from conservative christianity to flying Pride Flags over the the American Flag. It's clear there is no separation between church and state. People just debate the religion of the "church".
- medo-bear 3y agoi am not sure if we are talking about the same thing so i want to say that i strongly believe family relationships precede religion. i am from eastern europe and i think people had better family lives during socialism then they do now, which is ironic given the very strict seperation of church and state
- philwelch 3y ago> How much of that is social expectation? Yes, we can change social expectations and boundaries. We did change social expectations and boundaries. It was called the "Sexual Revolution" and it happened over half a century ago. It's old news. This is where we've ended up since then.
- thomastjeffery 3y agoI'm still trying to find the waves of that revolution. Maybe I just need to get the fuck out of Utah... I could really use an aftershock.
- valianteffort 3y agoIt sounds like you're more of a sex pest that places far too much significance on the act rather than the relationship before it.
- thomastjeffery 3y agoBecause I have a different perspective than you, I am a pest. This is precisely the issue at hand. I'm not pestering you for sex; in fact I am not pestering anyone at all! Yet here you are pestering me for expressing an interest in it. -- Am I a pest for leaving the Mormon Church? Am I a pest for drinking alcohol at home? Whatever happened to the religious freedom y'all keep telling me about? Can I have some?
- valianteffort 3y ago> Am I a pest for leaving the Mormon Church No but there does seem to be a strong correlation between people who were raised in strict religious households and a strong predilection towards sex. I kind of already assumed that you were ex-religious before you said so. You are free to believe and do whatever you like, but don't presume that everyone else is a prude because they don't look at sex the way you do. Or that your perspective should be the norm. People overwhelmingly choose and hope for monogomy despite society largely accepting casual sexual encounters as "normal". There's no telling the extent of the damage that has done to people's ability to pair bond successfully and develop interpersonal relationships.