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Every possible change to a car’s safety system will cause some deaths and save others… look at airbags. The aggregate stats are the most important things to lo

Every possible change to a car’s safety system will cause some deaths and save others… look at airbags. The aggregate stats are the most important things to look at, especially for something like AEB which has the ability to save pedestrians, which as of late are getting mowed down more and more frequently.

jacquesm 3y ago
Agreed that overall it can be an improvement. But I've clocked up a good 40K km since I got rid of the car that was equipped with defunct EAB and I'm fairly sure (but of course can not prove it) that I would have been in an accident by now on account of it triggering falsely. Conversely, I've never had a problem with airbags deploying without cause and my seatbelt is on just to move the car 10 meters because it is deeply ingrained and I refuse to drive - or be in - a car without it. But faulty EAB caused more trouble for me than any other safety feature to date and I really wonder what caused Mercedes Benz to release this feature in such a horrific functional state. It is beyond belief how broken it is and I would love to see their internal stats for how often their EAB caused - not prevented - single vehicle accidents.
- IanCal 3y ago
  At the very least it sounds like people will benefit from actual tests and requirements about how the braking system must act.
- Olreich 3y ago
  Those would be good stats to mandate sharing with the proposed rules. Would likely cause them to rework the system if they started losing sales over it.
ghostpepper 3y ago
There needs to be a tiered license then - if you pass the more rigorous exam you can drive cars without the extra "safety" features. Making AEB mandatory would increase the survival rate of poor drivers and punish people who actually pay attention on the road.
- IanCal 3y ago
  > and punish people who actually pay attention on the road. It can benefit people who have reaction times slower than silicon.
  - ghostpepper 3y ago
    It can also cause accidents, and some people go their whole lives without getting in an accident.
    - IanCal 3y ago
      Including those that drive cars with aeb.

jacquesm 3y ago

Agreed that overall it can be an improvement. But I've clocked up a good 40K km since I got rid of the car that was equipped with defunct EAB and I'm fairly sure (but of course can not prove it) that I would have been in an accident by now on account of it triggering falsely. Conversely, I've never had a problem with airbags deploying without cause and my seatbelt is on just to move the car 10 meters because it is deeply ingrained and I refuse to drive - or be in - a car without it. But faulty EAB caused more trouble for me than any other safety feature to date and I really wonder what caused Mercedes Benz to release this feature in such a horrific functional state. It is beyond belief how broken it is and I would love to see their internal stats for how often their EAB caused - not prevented - single vehicle accidents.

IanCal 3y ago
At the very least it sounds like people will benefit from actual tests and requirements about how the braking system must act.
Olreich 3y ago
Those would be good stats to mandate sharing with the proposed rules. Would likely cause them to rework the system if they started losing sales over it.

ghostpepper 3y ago

There needs to be a tiered license then - if you pass the more rigorous exam you can drive cars without the extra "safety" features. Making AEB mandatory would increase the survival rate of poor drivers and punish people who actually pay attention on the road.

IanCal 3y ago
> and punish people who actually pay attention on the road. It can benefit people who have reaction times slower than silicon.
- ghostpepper 3y ago
  It can also cause accidents, and some people go their whole lives without getting in an accident.
  - IanCal 3y ago
    Including those that drive cars with aeb.