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What I would consider "Left" is so far from what conservatives call leftists right now. Even the democrats are essentially conservative now. No one even wants t

by foxyv 3y ago

What I would consider "Left" is so far from what conservatives call leftists right now. Even the democrats are essentially conservative now. No one even wants to touch the boat, much less rock it. Liberals have become conservatives, conservatives have become reactionaries. It's brutal for leftists... I don't know why you think that our government has shifted left. Unions are being strangled, rights are being revoked, cost of living for necessities is going up, social programs are being cut off, and everything left is being destroyed piece by piece. The only possible left shift is maybe some social issues. The days of the trusts and robber barons seem to be coming back.

johnny99k 3y ago
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- avgDev 3y ago
  In one comment you "don't want to discuss" politics but yet you are throwing loaded statement "authoritarian left" and are unwilling to back up such claims or discuss it because you will be attacked. What is the point?
  - johnny99k 3y ago
    Again, I'm not going to be goaded into discourse only to be digitally shouted down via a massive downvote. This already should say a lot about the current state of our culture (and politics).
    - foxyv 3y ago
      > I am not going to be goaded into supporting my claims!
- foxyv 3y ago
  Sorry Comrade, I didn't know that the authoritarian left had taken over. You will be re-assigned to work in Ohio as a bread maker tomorrow. Please say goodbye to your family and pack your bags. The worker train will be waiting at the station at 2PM tomorrow. Good luck! Long live the great leader and the workers revolution! Edit: It has been brought to my attention that the workers revolution has not occurred and we are ruled by capitalist dogs. Please disregard the above. Also, there is no train station because it was bulldozed to make way for the expansion of highway 19257. Edit 2: Apparently bread was banned in Ohio because someone put a rainbow flag on it. Please disregard bread. Go woke go broke. Edit 3: Please do not shoot the rainbow bread without making sure that the Bug Light beers you are using for a backstop is not in front of a preschool. I repeat, please stop shooting schools.
invalidOrTaken 3y ago
Socially things have definitely moved left. Pick $SEX_THING, consider its status now relative to 10/20/30 years ago and it should be pretty obvious. Economically it's...weird, and you could argue that it hasn't really made leftists or rightists happy. That Nikon link the other day (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36131319 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36131319) --- that doesn't seem to be what White Fascists For Swole America or Free Citizens of Stolen Native Land want. Corporatist is how I'd describe the econ policies of...since I can remember.
- foxyv 3y ago
  I agree that a lot of progress has been made with regards to sexuality. I think mostly because the sex things didn't threaten the status quo in any significant way. It was a useful distraction from the actual crimes being committed. Sub-prime mortgages, military contracts, offshoring, selling secrets, taking money from hostile foreign powers, regulating away competition, not enforcing anti-trust laws, protecting friends from the law, etc... But what substantive changes have we made progress in on the left in the last 30 years that required even the smallest sacrifice on the part of the elite? Health care reform? Still private and more expensive than ever. Affordable housing? Ha! Improved working conditions? Nope. Expanding social programs? Nope, even less entitlements. Decreasing retirement age? Bringing equity to oppressed minorities? Reducing imprisonment?

by foxyv 3y ago

johnny99k 3y ago

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avgDev 3y ago
In one comment you "don't want to discuss" politics but yet you are throwing loaded statement "authoritarian left" and are unwilling to back up such claims or discuss it because you will be attacked. What is the point?
- johnny99k 3y ago
  Again, I'm not going to be goaded into discourse only to be digitally shouted down via a massive downvote. This already should say a lot about the current state of our culture (and politics).
  - foxyv 3y ago
    > I am not going to be goaded into supporting my claims!
foxyv 3y ago
Sorry Comrade, I didn't know that the authoritarian left had taken over. You will be re-assigned to work in Ohio as a bread maker tomorrow. Please say goodbye to your family and pack your bags. The worker train will be waiting at the station at 2PM tomorrow. Good luck! Long live the great leader and the workers revolution! Edit: It has been brought to my attention that the workers revolution has not occurred and we are ruled by capitalist dogs. Please disregard the above. Also, there is no train station because it was bulldozed to make way for the expansion of highway 19257. Edit 2: Apparently bread was banned in Ohio because someone put a rainbow flag on it. Please disregard bread. Go woke go broke. Edit 3: Please do not shoot the rainbow bread without making sure that the Bug Light beers you are using for a backstop is not in front of a preschool. I repeat, please stop shooting schools.

invalidOrTaken 3y ago

Socially things have definitely moved left. Pick $SEX_THING, consider its status now relative to 10/20/30 years ago and it should be pretty obvious. Economically it's...weird, and you could argue that it hasn't really made leftists or rightists happy. That Nikon link the other day (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36131319 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36131319) --- that doesn't seem to be what White Fascists For Swole America or Free Citizens of Stolen Native Land want. Corporatist is how I'd describe the econ policies of...since I can remember.

foxyv 3y ago
I agree that a lot of progress has been made with regards to sexuality. I think mostly because the sex things didn't threaten the status quo in any significant way. It was a useful distraction from the actual crimes being committed. Sub-prime mortgages, military contracts, offshoring, selling secrets, taking money from hostile foreign powers, regulating away competition, not enforcing anti-trust laws, protecting friends from the law, etc... But what substantive changes have we made progress in on the left in the last 30 years that required even the smallest sacrifice on the part of the elite? Health care reform? Still private and more expensive than ever. Affordable housing? Ha! Improved working conditions? Nope. Expanding social programs? Nope, even less entitlements. Decreasing retirement age? Bringing equity to oppressed minorities? Reducing imprisonment?