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I'm super sceptical about VR for anything outside of "dock" games like car racing and spaceship simulators and still am. I have however, got a pair of Xreal "AR

by rcarr 3y ago

I'm super sceptical about VR for anything outside of "dock" games like car racing and spaceship simulators and still am. I have however, got a pair of Xreal "AR" glasses that are basically a pair of sunglasses that allow you to have a 120" projector monitor (or set of monitors) wherever you want and they are absolutely awesome and I can definitely see that kind of product becoming the new normal. The ergonomics, price ($399), flexibility to take wherever you want and productivity are just so much better than traditional monitors and televisions. It is absolutely amazing to just plug in a pair to your phone/tablet/computer laid down in bed and watch a film projected on to your ceiling. People are hooking them up to Steam Decks and they also say it's amazing just being able to play whatever game they want, wherever they want, on a massive screen. Going to be a game changer for anyone who spends a lot of time travelling or commuting on public transport but will definitely filter into the general office and home spaces as well. Will save both companies and consumers a substantial amount of money. These glasses have been such a game changer for me that I now have ordered a Steam Deck and, depending on how well I get on with SteamOS and Linux, may end up selling my Macbook Pro which would be the first time I've not had an Apple computer since around 2008/9 (save for a few years when I was super poor and couldn't afford one).

samstave 3y ago
I think I really want a pair of these - is there any place one can try them out?
- rcarr 3y ago
  Depends where you're based I'm guessing, I'm from the UK and had to order them via the Amazon US website. For what it's worth I've never had any issues returning anything to Amazon, even stuff from the US (although the few times I've had to do that I've bought the US stuff via the UK website rather than the US one so don't know if it would be different).
  - samstave 3y ago
    Ironically, one of the reasons I want this is that I have (4) USB-based AOC monitors. Two of them showed up with broken screens, and this is the only problem I have ever had returning anything to Amazon - but thats because its AOC thats refusing to honor a replacement and amazon claims since its a 3rd party its out of their hands. Once I canceled my PRIME account, and then amazon charged me the $99 after I canceled. I called them, demanded a refund AND a $25 inconvenience fee for me having to go through the process to get my refund... and they paid it!
    - rcarr 3y ago
      Monitors are a pain in the arse. I bought a 65 inch tv last year to use as a monitor that I'm now selling and it's difficult to shift. You can't really ship it because the risk of it being damaged is high so no-one will give you a reasonable quote with insurance. So I'm going to have to sell it to someone locally, probably at a super low price. Looking forward to never having this problem ever again with this new tech. Between projectors and these glasses I think TVs are going to become obsolete tech within the next two decades. It's only a matter of time until someone makes an app that allows you and all your mates to watch whatever you want on your own individual glasses but in sync with each other. And for the people who want a permanent glasses off experience at home I think laser projectors are going to come down in price and become commonplace. TVs are going to go the way of the dodo.
      - samstave 3y ago
        Imagine when you have a UX for large screen throws in glasses which can be synced/networked whereby you can throw up the "wife - yes! IA M COOKING channel to her to prove you're chopping what she asked! GEESH!? vs - swiping back over to the gaming channel with your buddies and be like "Ill revive you in two seconds, bitch, GEESH - ill be there as soon as I am done with my status report on vegetable cuts Management is demanding!"
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abeppu 3y ago
What kind of tasks do you feel the Xreal "monitor" is good for? I looked at this product recently, but it seems like the resolution is basically 2x1920x1080 for the space + the screen. If you're used to using 1-2 4k monitors to look at e.g. multiple panes of text + graphs, this seems like it would be a big step backwards, like using a 10 year-old TV as a monitor. But some people seem to love it so maybe I'm missing something.
- rcarr 3y ago
  Anything you want, but of course it's all subjective. You can have up to three monitors if you're using the Nebula app, so that's three 1080p monitors. You can't see them all simultaneously though, you have to tilt your head to reveal the left and right monitors similar to how you would with real life monitors except for you don't have them in your peripheral vision. It's definitely not as crisp as a 4k monitor but I think some of the lack of resolution can be made up for by the sheer size of the screen. I am also willing to trade the lack of crispness for complete elimination of neck and shoulder ache from hunching and also the ability to have this anywhere I want. I'm planning on backpacking and doing the digital nomad thing indefinitely so this is really ideal. One thing that has been surprising is that I thought eye strain might be a problem but I've not really had any discomfort and I've actually gone back to using light mode in the day time and dark mode at night time which is something I thought I'd never do having been using dark mode for everything for years.

by rcarr 3y ago

samstave 3y ago

I think I really want a pair of these - is there any place one can try them out?

rcarr 3y ago
Depends where you're based I'm guessing, I'm from the UK and had to order them via the Amazon US website. For what it's worth I've never had any issues returning anything to Amazon, even stuff from the US (although the few times I've had to do that I've bought the US stuff via the UK website rather than the US one so don't know if it would be different).
- samstave 3y ago
  Ironically, one of the reasons I want this is that I have (4) USB-based AOC monitors. Two of them showed up with broken screens, and this is the only problem I have ever had returning anything to Amazon - but thats because its AOC thats refusing to honor a replacement and amazon claims since its a 3rd party its out of their hands. Once I canceled my PRIME account, and then amazon charged me the $99 after I canceled. I called them, demanded a refund AND a $25 inconvenience fee for me having to go through the process to get my refund... and they paid it!
  - rcarr 3y ago
    Monitors are a pain in the arse. I bought a 65 inch tv last year to use as a monitor that I'm now selling and it's difficult to shift. You can't really ship it because the risk of it being damaged is high so no-one will give you a reasonable quote with insurance. So I'm going to have to sell it to someone locally, probably at a super low price. Looking forward to never having this problem ever again with this new tech. Between projectors and these glasses I think TVs are going to become obsolete tech within the next two decades. It's only a matter of time until someone makes an app that allows you and all your mates to watch whatever you want on your own individual glasses but in sync with each other. And for the people who want a permanent glasses off experience at home I think laser projectors are going to come down in price and become commonplace. TVs are going to go the way of the dodo.
    - samstave 3y ago
      Imagine when you have a UX for large screen throws in glasses which can be synced/networked whereby you can throw up the "wife - yes! IA M COOKING channel to her to prove you're chopping what she asked! GEESH!? vs - swiping back over to the gaming channel with your buddies and be like "Ill revive you in two seconds, bitch, GEESH - ill be there as soon as I am done with my status report on vegetable cuts Management is demanding!"

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abeppu 3y ago

What kind of tasks do you feel the Xreal "monitor" is good for? I looked at this product recently, but it seems like the resolution is basically 2x1920x1080 for the space + the screen. If you're used to using 1-2 4k monitors to look at e.g. multiple panes of text + graphs, this seems like it would be a big step backwards, like using a 10 year-old TV as a monitor. But some people seem to love it so maybe I'm missing something.

rcarr 3y ago
Anything you want, but of course it's all subjective. You can have up to three monitors if you're using the Nebula app, so that's three 1080p monitors. You can't see them all simultaneously though, you have to tilt your head to reveal the left and right monitors similar to how you would with real life monitors except for you don't have them in your peripheral vision. It's definitely not as crisp as a 4k monitor but I think some of the lack of resolution can be made up for by the sheer size of the screen. I am also willing to trade the lack of crispness for complete elimination of neck and shoulder ache from hunching and also the ability to have this anywhere I want. I'm planning on backpacking and doing the digital nomad thing indefinitely so this is really ideal. One thing that has been surprising is that I thought eye strain might be a problem but I've not really had any discomfort and I've actually gone back to using light mode in the day time and dark mode at night time which is something I thought I'd never do having been using dark mode for everything for years.