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> No one is making this argument. I have seen people make what is effectively this argument. > Once it exists, its goals are more important than our lives. T

> No one is making this argument. I have seen people make what is effectively this argument. > Once it exists, its goals are more important than our lives. That's a sci-fi trope. There is no reason that it must be the case. > As a comparison, do humans ever care about the existence of an ant colony when they want to build something? That would be more relevant if the ants had created us to be the way we are.

digging 3y ago
> I have seen people make what is effectively this argument. Ok, well I think they're foolish. > That's a sci-fi trope. There is no reason that it must be the case. No, it's not. The reason is that it's not a human brain in a human body. It doesn't think about humans in the same ways that we do (which is already a pretty shit track record). There is no reason to believe it will give a damn about us even if we're trying to make it do so. > That would be more relevant if the ants had created us to be the way we are. sigh I don't think that factor is nearly as relevant as you think it is. So somewhere else I posted that a human child is a better analogy if you think this is so important. Human children often disobey their parents because they believe they know better once they grow up. Now imagine that child is an alien who can out-think a hundred humans and counter every logical argument its parent makes.
DirkH 3y ago
"I have seen people make what is effectively this argument" And I have heard seemingly smart people use quantum physics to argue why consciousness is the ground of all being in a bad way. You know what I do? I dismiss these quantum physics fanboys. You know what I don't do? I don't dismiss quantum physics as a field of research. In fact, what the quantum physics fanboys said has no bearing at all on how much credence I give to quantum physics as a research field.

digging 3y ago

> I have seen people make what is effectively this argument. Ok, well I think they're foolish. > That's a sci-fi trope. There is no reason that it must be the case. No, it's not. The reason is that it's not a human brain in a human body. It doesn't think about humans in the same ways that we do (which is already a pretty shit track record). There is no reason to believe it will give a damn about us even if we're trying to make it do so. > That would be more relevant if the ants had created us to be the way we are. sigh I don't think that factor is nearly as relevant as you think it is. So somewhere else I posted that a human child is a better analogy if you think this is so important. Human children often disobey their parents because they believe they know better once they grow up. Now imagine that child is an alien who can out-think a hundred humans and counter every logical argument its parent makes.

DirkH 3y ago

"I have seen people make what is effectively this argument" And I have heard seemingly smart people use quantum physics to argue why consciousness is the ground of all being in a bad way. You know what I do? I dismiss these quantum physics fanboys. You know what I don't do? I don't dismiss quantum physics as a field of research. In fact, what the quantum physics fanboys said has no bearing at all on how much credence I give to quantum physics as a research field.