The density is such that I feel its insulting to lump it in with "clean, modern", certainly. Also, is it just me, or does it evoke some Google Wave UI vibes? I

The density is such that I feel its insulting to lump it in with "clean, modern", certainly. Also, is it just me, or does it evoke some Google Wave UI vibes? I wish I didn't have to choose between Zulip's UI/UX and Matrix's federation, client availability and obvious bright future...