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> You don't understand what would be different from knowing and personally implementing I am arguing that the absence of knowledge makes the absence of control

> You don't understand what would be different from knowing and personally implementing I am arguing that the absence of knowledge makes the absence of control irrelevant. We don't know how to do any better than the learning rule. > I don't understand your obsession with underpinning your arguments with notes from the lesswrong crowd. There's a big AI safety statement signed by a lot of academics This is incredibly disingenuous. Hinton or Bengio argue sophomoric ideas that have been discussed to death on Lesswrong decades ago. Your own link would have been impossible without Lesswrong tradition, it's literally written by lesswrongers on a sister community largely hijacked by lesswrongers. Everything of intellectual content that there is to alignment research is basically Lesswrong paradigm, you argue MIRI talking points too. Attempting to abandon it as a low-status association is just nasty.

famouswaffles 3y ago
>I am arguing that the absence of knowledge makes the absence of control irrelevant. But it doesn't lol. Just because we don't know any better doesn't mean the current way isn't any less potentially dangerous. >Your own link would have been impossible without Lesswrong tradition, it's literally written by lesswrongers on a sister community largely hijacked by lesswrongers. This is the point I'm making lol. You knew this, I didn't. I came across something I found interesting and I shared it. That's it. I know alignmentforum even less than I know lesswrong >Attempting to abandon it as a low-status association is just nasty. I'm not a lesswronger. I'm not trying to avoid anything, I'm just not. I think you have issues you need have to deal with. Good day