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What makes you think people who use Apollo don't want to pay for things? I literally pay for Apollo

throwaway472919 3y ago
Also all iOS users, who are more valuable, and probably harder to use bots/easier to permaban (compared to Android or web). On the other side, Apple will kill your app, maybe without warning, if you don't moderate strongly enough for their liking.
paulcole 3y ago
Because most people don’t want to pay for things they can get for “free” — look at literally every thread on HN about ads or every paywalled article here w/ an “archive” link. They’ll twist themselves into knots justifying to themselves that they’re entitled to something for nothing. Just because you pay for Apollo (I pay for it as well) isn’t evidence that most of the Apollo user base is ready to open their wallets to the point of starting Reddit 2.0.
- AlexandrB 3y ago
  > look at literally every thread on HN about ads I'm sorry, but in the case of ads this is a two way street. Ad companies have made it impossible to revoke consent for them to collect my data so ad blocking is the last refuge I have left. What entitles marketers to ignore the DNT flag and continue collecting info about me?
  - paulcole 3y ago
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    - AlexandrB 3y ago
      I used to whitelist The Deck. It didn't stop them from going under. The last refuge I actually have is advocating for public policy to make data collection without explicit consent illegal. Otherwise the shortlist of sites I can use without engaging with tracking behavior is extremely short. Edit: I think this idea of the ad-blocking user as perpetual freeloader is a nice fiction that helps ad company execs sleep at night. If you ask companies why they don't ask for explicit consent to tracking, the answer is often: "because no one would agree to it". But there's this game being played where ad companies pretend that no "good" user minds what they're doing as they continue to push the envelope of what's acceptable.
      - paulcole 3y ago
        Like I said, you can stop visiting the sites you don’t like the business practice of, you can accept that you like some content more than you dislike the business practice of the site, or you can convince yourself you’re right. It’s not complicated. Good luck changing public policy.

Also all iOS users, who are more valuable, and probably harder to use bots/easier to permaban (compared to Android or web). On the other side, Apple will kill your app, maybe without warning, if you don't moderate strongly enough for their liking.

paulcole 3y ago

Because most people don’t want to pay for things they can get for “free” — look at literally every thread on HN about ads or every paywalled article here w/ an “archive” link. They’ll twist themselves into knots justifying to themselves that they’re entitled to something for nothing. Just because you pay for Apollo (I pay for it as well) isn’t evidence that most of the Apollo user base is ready to open their wallets to the point of starting Reddit 2.0.

AlexandrB 3y ago
> look at literally every thread on HN about ads I'm sorry, but in the case of ads this is a two way street. Ad companies have made it impossible to revoke consent for them to collect my data so ad blocking is the last refuge I have left. What entitles marketers to ignore the DNT flag and continue collecting info about me?
- paulcole 3y ago
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  - AlexandrB 3y ago
    I used to whitelist The Deck. It didn't stop them from going under. The last refuge I actually have is advocating for public policy to make data collection without explicit consent illegal. Otherwise the shortlist of sites I can use without engaging with tracking behavior is extremely short. Edit: I think this idea of the ad-blocking user as perpetual freeloader is a nice fiction that helps ad company execs sleep at night. If you ask companies why they don't ask for explicit consent to tracking, the answer is often: "because no one would agree to it". But there's this game being played where ad companies pretend that no "good" user minds what they're doing as they continue to push the envelope of what's acceptable.
    - paulcole 3y ago
      Like I said, you can stop visiting the sites you don’t like the business practice of, you can accept that you like some content more than you dislike the business practice of the site, or you can convince yourself you’re right. It’s not complicated. Good luck changing public policy.