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I suppose so. I'm just imagining these "ghost AI artists" who publish catalogues of music using the audible likeness of more prolific artists. I know that you

I suppose so. I'm just imagining these "ghost AI artists" who publish catalogues of music using the audible likeness of more prolific artists. I know that you could have always just hired an Eminem impersonator and have them lay down tracks...but this technology lets you achieve speed and scale. At least the Eminem impersonator was a real person. This is just a model learned off an artists voice.

2023throwawayy 3y ago
> At least the Eminem impersonator was a real person. This is just a model learned off an artists voice. I fail to see how that has any difference on the output.
- AlexandrB 3y ago
  We're all fucking doomed. All these "clever" comparisons between AI and human processes (e.g. "training an AI is just like a human learning"), is not elevating AI to the status of a real person. It's degrading real human creations to homogeneous "content" that is increasingly seen as equivalent to what can be churned out by a GPU farm. 50 years from now we'll still be listening to "AI Eminem" while watching "Avengers Midgame 12, The Revengening" and any concept of cultural or artistic expression beyond what will sell next quarter will be dead and buried.
rocketbop 3y ago
> I'm just imagining these "ghost AI artists" who publish catalogues of music using the audible likeness of more prolific artists. Possibly so, but who is the market for such a catalogue? I don’t see how the artist is going to lose out. I’m reminded, though, if the episode of Mad Men where they want to get the Beatles as the soundtrack to an ad, but on finding out that the Beatles won’t do it they try to get some music that sounds similar to the Beatles. Maybe that’s the market.
- slyall 3y ago
  A New Zealand political party got into trouble for using a "sound alike" of "Lose Yourself" by Eminem in a political advertisement. They licensed the song from a music library but the court determined the song they licensed was too close to the original. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Mile_Style_v_New_Zealand_National_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Mile_Style_v_New_Zealand...
  - rocketbop 3y ago
    Doesn’t sound like a core market for Eminem. I mean, I find it hard to think of use cases where an artist will really lose out in business terms because someone chooses an AI version of their music over the original. In this case I suspect they wouldn’t have really licensed or tried to licence Lose Yourself.
goolz 3y ago
These "ghost artists" sound verbatim is the issue I have. A Drake song recently went viral and had tons of hits only to turn out it was made with AI. Fans could not even tell the difference and I most certainly could not either.

2023throwawayy 3y ago

> At least the Eminem impersonator was a real person. This is just a model learned off an artists voice. I fail to see how that has any difference on the output.

AlexandrB 3y ago
We're all fucking doomed. All these "clever" comparisons between AI and human processes (e.g. "training an AI is just like a human learning"), is not elevating AI to the status of a real person. It's degrading real human creations to homogeneous "content" that is increasingly seen as equivalent to what can be churned out by a GPU farm. 50 years from now we'll still be listening to "AI Eminem" while watching "Avengers Midgame 12, The Revengening" and any concept of cultural or artistic expression beyond what will sell next quarter will be dead and buried.

rocketbop 3y ago

> I'm just imagining these "ghost AI artists" who publish catalogues of music using the audible likeness of more prolific artists. Possibly so, but who is the market for such a catalogue? I don’t see how the artist is going to lose out. I’m reminded, though, if the episode of Mad Men where they want to get the Beatles as the soundtrack to an ad, but on finding out that the Beatles won’t do it they try to get some music that sounds similar to the Beatles. Maybe that’s the market.

slyall 3y ago
A New Zealand political party got into trouble for using a "sound alike" of "Lose Yourself" by Eminem in a political advertisement. They licensed the song from a music library but the court determined the song they licensed was too close to the original. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Mile_Style_v_New_Zealand_National_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Mile_Style_v_New_Zealand...
- rocketbop 3y ago
  Doesn’t sound like a core market for Eminem. I mean, I find it hard to think of use cases where an artist will really lose out in business terms because someone chooses an AI version of their music over the original. In this case I suspect they wouldn’t have really licensed or tried to licence Lose Yourself.

goolz 3y ago

These "ghost artists" sound verbatim is the issue I have. A Drake song recently went viral and had tons of hits only to turn out it was made with AI. Fans could not even tell the difference and I most certainly could not either.