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> 3-ounce serving of skinless chicken thigh skinless is obviously not popular cut. > tend not to cause the insulin/carb cycling in terms of hunger response
by riku_iki 3y ago
> 3-ounce serving of skinless chicken thigh
skinless is obviously not popular cut.
> tend not to cause the insulin/carb cycling in terms of hunger response
they contribute to extra calories.
- tracker1 3y agoMore than half the calories people take in is purely for energy. Excess is excess, it doesn't matter so much that it's fat or carbs. The difference being that if you're downing refined sugar or heavily processed foods there's other negative impacts that you don't see from excess fats. Unless you're suggesting that getting an extra ounce of natural animal fat is worse than eating something like a cereal bar with lots of refined chemical additives that aren't real food, including refined fats that don't even exist and would never be taken in in nature?
- riku_iki 3y agoMy point is very simple: person can over consume calories from animal fat the same way as from processed food or refined sugar. Fat is 2.5 more dense in calories, and switching to lean meat can cut calories intake significantly.
- tracker1 3y agoAnd doing so, will likely cut more than an ideal ratio for nutrition, where overconsumption of calories from fat is less likely than from other sources. That also doesn't consider the fact that the effects of excess sugars/carbs is worse than excess calories from fat.
- riku_iki 3y ago> will likely cut more than an ideal ratio for nutrition or likely will not > That also doesn't consider the fact that the effects of excess sugars/carbs is worse than excess calories from fat. this is offtopic, I never stated that excess cabrs/sugars better than fat
- tracker1 3y agoAnd my assertion is that most people aren't getting enough fat from a modern Western diet. That they shouldn't be afraid to eat it in natural proportions... You're the one asserting otherwise.
- riku_iki 3y ago> that most people aren't getting enough fat from a modern Western diet. yes, my observations are very opposite: fats are popular filling in western diet, you can check contents of muffins, croissant, sausages, not even talking about deep fried food, you will see more than half caloric intake is from fat.
- tracker1 3y agoAnd those are not natural animal fats, they are largely refined seed oils.
- riku_iki 3y agoI think it is up to discussion if it is bad or good. But even if you don't eat processed fat, with sedentary office life one may still overconsume calories even from eating fatty meat.
- tracker1 3y agoCompared to what? Overeating sugar laden carby snacks? The US has been "avoiding" fats for half a century... it hasn't done any good... maybe a different approach is overdue? I'd like you to show me someone who is obese because they ate too much fatty meat and had nearly zero sugar/carbs. Because I can show you about 120 million in the US alone where the opposite is true.
- riku_iki 3y ago> I'd like you to show me someone who is obese because they ate too much fatty meat and had nearly zero sugar/carbs. that's my personal experience, I already cut sugar/raw carbs, but still need to watch on fatty meat to maintain neutral caloric intake.
- doublerebel 3y agoFat is far more satiating which is why keto and paleo diets are relatively easy to adopt. For most people, it’s easier to control overeating within the same calorie amount by reducing carbs and increasing fats.