I'm glad that zulip exists, though I was only mildly impressed by its threading model. The complexity of dealing with threads doesn't magically disappears with

I'm glad that zulip exists, though I was only mildly impressed by its threading model. The complexity of dealing with threads doesn't magically disappears with it, instead of specific discussions being organized as one-off sub-channels or as unlabeled chains of cited/related messages like on other protocols, you end up with channels followed by their seemingly infinite list of short lived topics turned clutter after a while. That does help delineate threads compared to e.g. slack (which everyone agrees is the worst in this area) but it just feels (to me) like reading more channels (because the "main" one is no loger practical as a "common"/"neutral" place). I think I'm just old school and prefer the raw simplicity of things like IRC where there is no assumption of threading: you'd just go about quoting exactly what you want to respond to, which is just enough context to connect the dots. IMHO there's no silver bullet: all the alternatives have their pros and cons and there's universal value in simplicity.