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Without a doubt, this is another step in Reddit's demise. It will really go into freefall when they go public later this year, after which I'm certain you'll st

Without a doubt, this is another step in Reddit's demise. It will really go into freefall when they go public later this year, after which I'm certain you'll start seeing more intrusive monetization. The window just opened for someone to develop the replacement. It will rip itself apart over the next few years and all 52 million users will be looking for a new home. Reddit's product is authenticity. Monetization is the antithesis of authenticity. The two cannot coexist, as they're about to find out.

mjr00 3y ago
> It will really go into freefall when they go public later this year, after which I'm certain you'll start seeing more intrusive monetization. Yep, and with more intrusive monetization comes stricter content controls. Once Reddit bans NSFW content -- which is "when" not "if" at this point -- it's going to lose its relevance as a platform.
- yreg 3y ago
  What's up with the markets disliking NSFW content? I thought sex sells… I would rather invest in reddit with NSFW content allowed than in reddit with NSFW content banned.
  - jasonladuke0311 3y ago
    No company wants to see a screenshot of their ad above someone being buttfucked while dressed up as some anime character
    - yreg 3y ago
      I don't see why though. I would gladly advertise there, the people who watch that content wouldn't think less of my brand. Even then, why not just turn the banners off on NSFW posts?
theturtletalks 3y ago
Apollo needs to go open-source and pivot into a feeder app that connects to Reddit, Twitter, Substack, RSS feeds, etc. Allow users to connect their keys and pay the API themselves. Think of that as the subscription. The Apollo UI is killer and can make other social apps better. Once the new app is being used by power users paying for their own usage, Apollo builds a Reddit alternative. It will fit into the feeder app just like the rest.
- bigthymer 3y ago
  I don't think that will work because there will not be enough paid users to build critical mass. Enough of the never paying users provide sufficient value that I don't think there is a viable alternative without them. If there is going to be a reddit alternative, it is going to have to happen now or very soon after the paid Reddit API goes live.
numpad0 3y ago
Note you can’t just make a New Digg and move people over - it will be something next-gen compared to what it is. And 100m babies are born each year, that’s double what’s their userbase.
throw_m239339 3y ago
> It will really go into freefall when they go public later this year, I mean the only thing the founders/investors want is to cash out, nothing more. they don't care about what reddit becomes after they IPO. > Reddit's product is authenticity. It has not been authentic since Trump's election. It has become a PAC, tangentially something else, but mainly a way to push partisan politics on every single subreddits including the subs that have nothing to do with partisanship.
kitebive 3y ago
There's a replacement already (maybe not as good, unfortunately): Lemmy*, which is decentralized and integrated with Mastodon. * https://lemmy.ml https://lemmy.ml
rozab 3y ago
It's a tragedy, because reddit is the last source of publicly available truth on the internet. I can search for anything with site:reddit.com and see actual human beings' opinions on the matter. All other truth is locked down in unindexed chats, and all other search results are SEO'd AI written articles shilling referral links.
- tpmx 3y ago
  truth Hah. Reddit "truth" is sold and bought at every level for anything popular enough. It's just the illusion of truth. Your site:reddit.com strategy stopped making sense 2-3 years ago. I will not be sad when reddit essentially dies in a few years from now. Good riddance.
  - rjh29 3y ago
    It's hilariously easy to spot astroturfing comments and posts on reddit vs. actual opinions. Real posters don't spend years frequenting the same niche subs writing multiple paragraph comments about the same topic. Sure those opinions may be influenced and biased in their own way, but if you read enough of them you can form a pretty good summary.
  - LapsangGuzzler 3y ago
    > for anything popular enough There is still a ton of value in the more niche Reddit communities. I don’t spend much time in the default subs, but the smaller interest-based subs are great and most of them are too small for the karma farmers to really care about. Might as well get off the entire internet because all of the popular sites are sold and bought at every level.
    - witchesindublin 3y ago
      If all you are into is niche reddit communities, then why not have a forum for each community instead?
    - tpmx 3y ago
      Yeah, your subreddit is safe as long as a) there is no political aspect to it and b) there is no commercial aspect to it

mjr00 3y ago

> It will really go into freefall when they go public later this year, after which I'm certain you'll start seeing more intrusive monetization. Yep, and with more intrusive monetization comes stricter content controls. Once Reddit bans NSFW content -- which is "when" not "if" at this point -- it's going to lose its relevance as a platform.

yreg 3y ago
What's up with the markets disliking NSFW content? I thought sex sells… I would rather invest in reddit with NSFW content allowed than in reddit with NSFW content banned.
- jasonladuke0311 3y ago
  No company wants to see a screenshot of their ad above someone being buttfucked while dressed up as some anime character
  - yreg 3y ago
    I don't see why though. I would gladly advertise there, the people who watch that content wouldn't think less of my brand. Even then, why not just turn the banners off on NSFW posts?

theturtletalks 3y ago

Apollo needs to go open-source and pivot into a feeder app that connects to Reddit, Twitter, Substack, RSS feeds, etc. Allow users to connect their keys and pay the API themselves. Think of that as the subscription. The Apollo UI is killer and can make other social apps better. Once the new app is being used by power users paying for their own usage, Apollo builds a Reddit alternative. It will fit into the feeder app just like the rest.

bigthymer 3y ago
I don't think that will work because there will not be enough paid users to build critical mass. Enough of the never paying users provide sufficient value that I don't think there is a viable alternative without them. If there is going to be a reddit alternative, it is going to have to happen now or very soon after the paid Reddit API goes live.

numpad0 3y ago

Note you can’t just make a New Digg and move people over - it will be something next-gen compared to what it is. And 100m babies are born each year, that’s double what’s their userbase.

throw_m239339 3y ago

> It will really go into freefall when they go public later this year, I mean the only thing the founders/investors want is to cash out, nothing more. they don't care about what reddit becomes after they IPO. > Reddit's product is authenticity. It has not been authentic since Trump's election. It has become a PAC, tangentially something else, but mainly a way to push partisan politics on every single subreddits including the subs that have nothing to do with partisanship.

kitebive 3y ago

There's a replacement already (maybe not as good, unfortunately): Lemmy*, which is decentralized and integrated with Mastodon. * https://lemmy.ml https://lemmy.ml

rozab 3y ago

It's a tragedy, because reddit is the last source of publicly available truth on the internet. I can search for anything with site:reddit.com and see actual human beings' opinions on the matter. All other truth is locked down in unindexed chats, and all other search results are SEO'd AI written articles shilling referral links.

tpmx 3y ago
truth Hah. Reddit "truth" is sold and bought at every level for anything popular enough. It's just the illusion of truth. Your site:reddit.com strategy stopped making sense 2-3 years ago. I will not be sad when reddit essentially dies in a few years from now. Good riddance.
- rjh29 3y ago
  It's hilariously easy to spot astroturfing comments and posts on reddit vs. actual opinions. Real posters don't spend years frequenting the same niche subs writing multiple paragraph comments about the same topic. Sure those opinions may be influenced and biased in their own way, but if you read enough of them you can form a pretty good summary.
- LapsangGuzzler 3y ago
  > for anything popular enough There is still a ton of value in the more niche Reddit communities. I don’t spend much time in the default subs, but the smaller interest-based subs are great and most of them are too small for the karma farmers to really care about. Might as well get off the entire internet because all of the popular sites are sold and bought at every level.
  - witchesindublin 3y ago
    If all you are into is niche reddit communities, then why not have a forum for each community instead?
  - tpmx 3y ago
    Yeah, your subreddit is safe as long as a) there is no political aspect to it and b) there is no commercial aspect to it