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> Aside from the other obvious benefits, just the peace of mind is great. To say this without even paying lip-service to the well-known and common negative sid

> Aside from the other obvious benefits, just the peace of mind is great. To say this without even paying lip-service to the well-known and common negative side effects strikes me as incredibly disingenuous. The few guys I've known well enough over the years to discuss such matters who had lived with vasectomies long enough all complained of testicular pain, granulomas forming, etc. One would so consistently walk bull-legged from the pain into our shared office I basically knew whenever he got stoned with his wife the previous weekend. He wasted numerous days on doctor visits to get it checked out and see if he had developed testicular cancer, since granulomas are easily conflated with tumors, especially when the area's too tender/painful to really probe yourself. Living with a vasectomy is not all sunshine and roses. And I say this as someone who feels strongly about the planet being overrun by far too many homo sapiens.

JohnFen 3y ago
> The few guys I've known well enough over the years to discuss such matters who had lived with vasectomies long enough all complained of testicular pain, granulomas forming, etc. And of the several guys I know who had lived with vasectomies for a long time, none of them experienced any sort of long-term discomfort at all. We have dueling anecdata here. I have not seen any information, in data or anecdotes, that would make me even a little nervous about getting a vasectomy. However, there is risk with literally all surgical procedures, no matter how minor. Different people have different risk tolerances, and I am not diminishing your own personal risk assessment.
- pengaru 3y ago
  > We have dueling anecdata here. I have not seen any information, in data or anecdotes, that would make me even a little nervous about getting a vasectomy. You're right, it's not like what my anecdata describes is common/confirmed by the data enough to have a medical term describing it with its own wikipedia page or anything... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    Understand that I'm not saying there is zero risk with getting a vasectomy. All surgery, no matter how minor, carries risk of something going very wrong. I'm saying that it appears to me that the risk is very small. Whether or not it's small enough to be under your threshold of acceptable risk is an individual matter. I am not saying that people who decide it's too risky are being foolish. That's a personal decision that there is no objective right or wrong answer to.

JohnFen 3y ago

> The few guys I've known well enough over the years to discuss such matters who had lived with vasectomies long enough all complained of testicular pain, granulomas forming, etc. And of the several guys I know who had lived with vasectomies for a long time, none of them experienced any sort of long-term discomfort at all. We have dueling anecdata here. I have not seen any information, in data or anecdotes, that would make me even a little nervous about getting a vasectomy. However, there is risk with literally all surgical procedures, no matter how minor. Different people have different risk tolerances, and I am not diminishing your own personal risk assessment.

pengaru 3y ago
> We have dueling anecdata here. I have not seen any information, in data or anecdotes, that would make me even a little nervous about getting a vasectomy. You're right, it's not like what my anecdata describes is common/confirmed by the data enough to have a medical term describing it with its own wikipedia page or anything... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome
- JohnFen 3y ago
  Understand that I'm not saying there is zero risk with getting a vasectomy. All surgery, no matter how minor, carries risk of something going very wrong. I'm saying that it appears to me that the risk is very small. Whether or not it's small enough to be under your threshold of acceptable risk is an individual matter. I am not saying that people who decide it's too risky are being foolish. That's a personal decision that there is no objective right or wrong answer to.