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I would not be surprised if that was the case. It was a monumentally stupid idea to fire the human workers for this particular application. No computer can hope

by than3 3y ago

I would not be surprised if that was the case. It was a monumentally stupid idea to fire the human workers for this particular application. No computer can hope to accurately respond in a way that isn't harmful at least some of the time. Human's don't have that problem.

ftxbro 3y ago
> "It was a monumentally stupid idea to fire the human workers for this particular application." yes it's probably true > "No computer can hope to accurately respond in a way that isn't harmful at least some of the time." yeah so far it looks like that's the case > "Human's don't have that problem." wait what
- than3 3y ago
  fundamental limitation of computers, you run into the halting problem or decidability problem when you have same fixed inputs and multiple different outputs. human's can handle multiple different meanings given the same inputs and provide a correct response.
  - ftxbro 3y ago
    > "fundamental limitation of computers, you run into the halting problem or decidability problem when you have same fixed inputs and multiple different outputs. human's can handle multiple different meanings given the same inputs and provide a correct response." the computer science concepts of the halting problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem) or decidability problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decidability_(logic)#Some_undecidable_theories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decidability_(logic)#Some_unde...) aren't relevant to running an eating disorder helpline
    - than3 3y ago
      > aren't relevant to running an eating disorder helpline they are when you replace a human's activity with what's effectively a computation engine. Those have fundamental limitations which are well known, and they did it anyway. Any reasonable professional in a position to advise should have known, there is really no excuse because this is such a fundamental limitation going all the way back to Claude Shannon and Turing. Its discussed regularly in computer science major related undergraduate coursework. If you are going to use AI, you should be being advised by experts who are knowledgeable in the area especially when there is potential harm as it is safety critical.

by than3 3y ago

ftxbro 3y ago

> "It was a monumentally stupid idea to fire the human workers for this particular application." yes it's probably true > "No computer can hope to accurately respond in a way that isn't harmful at least some of the time." yeah so far it looks like that's the case > "Human's don't have that problem." wait what

than3 3y ago
fundamental limitation of computers, you run into the halting problem or decidability problem when you have same fixed inputs and multiple different outputs. human's can handle multiple different meanings given the same inputs and provide a correct response.
- ftxbro 3y ago
  > "fundamental limitation of computers, you run into the halting problem or decidability problem when you have same fixed inputs and multiple different outputs. human's can handle multiple different meanings given the same inputs and provide a correct response." the computer science concepts of the halting problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem) or decidability problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decidability_(logic)#Some_undecidable_theories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decidability_(logic)#Some_unde...) aren't relevant to running an eating disorder helpline
  - than3 3y ago
    > aren't relevant to running an eating disorder helpline they are when you replace a human's activity with what's effectively a computation engine. Those have fundamental limitations which are well known, and they did it anyway. Any reasonable professional in a position to advise should have known, there is really no excuse because this is such a fundamental limitation going all the way back to Claude Shannon and Turing. Its discussed regularly in computer science major related undergraduate coursework. If you are going to use AI, you should be being advised by experts who are knowledgeable in the area especially when there is potential harm as it is safety critical.