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> You're seeing this everywhere. Chicago, Philadelphia From what I have seen (as someone who frequents and pays attention to American cities) making this compa
by rco8786 3y ago
> You're seeing this everywhere. Chicago, Philadelphia
From what I have seen (as someone who frequents and pays attention to American cities) making this comparison is unfair to both SF and the other cities in the comparison. It's not like "crime is kinda up and SF is leading the pack", it's more like "crime is kinda up and - holy shit SF is off the charts".
The problem is so much more acute in SF, and it needs to be singled out in order to get it fixed. The "Oh this is happening in all cities" is both false and also hand waves away the problem in SF specifically.
- sylens 3y agoThat is fair - I've only seen other cities firsthand since the pandemic, not SF.
- MaxfordAndSons 3y agoThe Tenderloin in SF was a worst in class skid row area pre-pandemic; post-pandemic it is a full blown open air drug market zone, ala Hamsterdam from The Wire.
- ajmurmann 3y agoHamsterdam in the Wire seemed kinda organized and civil
- MaxfordAndSons 3y agoYea that's true, it's not a great comparison. I just meant in the sense that it's a de-facto open air drug market/use zone.
- colpabar 3y agoI'm currently rewatching it and no it didn't - there are several scenes where the cop who started it experiences how awful it has become for the people who live near the area. The other corners improved because nobody was selling drugs on them, but hamsterdam itself was a complete shitshow. Don't you remember when bubbles was walking around at night and even he was horrified by what he saw? Also, for anyone reading this who has not seen the show - watch it. I know it's fiction but it does such a good job of showing how complex all these problems and their solutions are.
- ajmurmann 3y agoI don't recall this and should definitely rewatch it. I haven't seen it since 2009, so I probably forgot a lot.