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The one issue I could not see a workaround for while living in the US was the food (short of getting *everything" flown in from the EU). That is why there is an

The one issue I could not see a workaround for while living in the US was the food (short of getting *everything" flown in from the EU). That is why there is an obesity epidemic, the food is poison - and it is the entire chain, from confectionery in the grocery store to a meal at a high-end restaurant. Back in the EU, everyday I am grateful for the simple, good, food that I can get even without making much effort - whether that be street food from a kiosk, or something I put together at home from basic supermarket ingredients. I am lucky in that my body tells me what is good/bad food and what/how much it needs. It remains a mystery to me how others lose control of their weight.

cudgy 3y ago
Are you saying that there are not supermarkets with basic wholesome ingredients from which to make healthy meals in the United States? That you were unable to buy grass-fed organic beef, pasture raised chicken, and organic vegetables and fruits? Where did you find this wasteland in the US? I have yet to see one that cannot provide these basic ingredients.
- bluefirebrand 3y ago
  For a substantial amount of Americans that is exactly what is happening. https://moveforhunger.org/harsh-reality-food-deserts-america https://moveforhunger.org/harsh-reality-food-deserts-america
  - cudgy 3y ago
    “[I]n urban areas, the U.S Department of Agriculture considers a food desert an area with no ready access to a store with fresh and nutritious food options within one mile.” One mile? With such a definition of the term “food desert”, no wonder so many people are defined as being in one. Living more than one mile from a grocery store is hardly a “desert”. Most grocery stores deliver food now too, so even lack of ambulatory faculties is a poor reason to not cook wholesome meals for one’s family. This study appears to have been created to create alarm about a possibly nonexistent or virtually nonexistent issue.
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- nine_k 3y ago
  Certainly you can have it in a metropolis downtown, or within reach of a well-off suburban neighborhood. (Not very cheaply though.) But https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert is a thing, especially in poorer, less densely populated areas. The problem is not just the absence of nicer options to normally nutritional food like rice or beans; it's also the prevalence of high-carb foods with very intense taste that pander to cravings and actively form them, while providing a wrong caloric balance (plentiful but very fast carbohydrates).
  - algoatecorn 3y ago
    Something like 6% of Americans actually live in a food desert. A worthy problem to solve, but a total strawman when it comes to addressing obesity and food choice behavior.
- somewhereoutth 3y ago
  For sure - but when I cooked these 'basic wholesome ingredients' the results were not as expected, for example 'lean' steak mince that filled the pan with so much fat? water? I had to drain it off as I fried. To be fair the veg wasn't too bad I think, but anything that requires rearing or processing is going to be filled with corn byproducts and goodness knows what else.

cudgy 3y ago

Are you saying that there are not supermarkets with basic wholesome ingredients from which to make healthy meals in the United States? That you were unable to buy grass-fed organic beef, pasture raised chicken, and organic vegetables and fruits? Where did you find this wasteland in the US? I have yet to see one that cannot provide these basic ingredients.

bluefirebrand 3y ago
For a substantial amount of Americans that is exactly what is happening. https://moveforhunger.org/harsh-reality-food-deserts-america https://moveforhunger.org/harsh-reality-food-deserts-america
- cudgy 3y ago
  “[I]n urban areas, the U.S Department of Agriculture considers a food desert an area with no ready access to a store with fresh and nutritious food options within one mile.” One mile? With such a definition of the term “food desert”, no wonder so many people are defined as being in one. Living more than one mile from a grocery store is hardly a “desert”. Most grocery stores deliver food now too, so even lack of ambulatory faculties is a poor reason to not cook wholesome meals for one’s family. This study appears to have been created to create alarm about a possibly nonexistent or virtually nonexistent issue.
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nine_k 3y ago
Certainly you can have it in a metropolis downtown, or within reach of a well-off suburban neighborhood. (Not very cheaply though.) But https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert is a thing, especially in poorer, less densely populated areas. The problem is not just the absence of nicer options to normally nutritional food like rice or beans; it's also the prevalence of high-carb foods with very intense taste that pander to cravings and actively form them, while providing a wrong caloric balance (plentiful but very fast carbohydrates).
- algoatecorn 3y ago
  Something like 6% of Americans actually live in a food desert. A worthy problem to solve, but a total strawman when it comes to addressing obesity and food choice behavior.
somewhereoutth 3y ago
For sure - but when I cooked these 'basic wholesome ingredients' the results were not as expected, for example 'lean' steak mince that filled the pan with so much fat? water? I had to drain it off as I fried. To be fair the veg wasn't too bad I think, but anything that requires rearing or processing is going to be filled with corn byproducts and goodness knows what else.