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Here's a follow up to this: PSA: Every legitimate long term study of major non surgical weight loss shows that it doesn't happen for the vast, vast majority of
by cm2012 3y ago
Here's a follow up to this:
PSA: Every legitimate long term study of major non surgical weight loss shows that it doesn't happen for the vast, vast majority of people. It's basically freakish when succesful in the long term.
1) ["In controlled settings, participants who remain in weight loss programs usually lose approximately 10% of their weight. However, one third to two thirds of the weight is regained within 1 year, and almost all is regained within 5 years. "](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1580453 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1580453)
2) Giant meta study of long term weight loss: ["Five years after completing structured weight-loss programs, the average individual maintained a weight loss of >3% of initial body weight."](http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/74/5/579.full http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/74/5/579.full)
3) Less Scientific: [Weight Watcher's Failure - "about two out of a thousand Weight Watchers participants who reached goal weight stayed there for more than five years."](https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/weight-watchers/ https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/weight-watchers/)
4) [The reason why it's impossible seems to be that although calories in < calories out works, the body of a fat person makes it extremely difficult psychologically to eat less.](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/magazine/tara-parker-pope- http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/magazine/tara-parker-pope-...) This is borne out by the above data.
5) [The only thing that does seem to work in the long term is gastric surgery.](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1421028/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1421028/)
Moreover, you won't find any reputable study on the web where the average person in the study lost 10%+ of their body weight and kept it off for five years. Not even one.
- Maxburn 3y agoI guess I'm a freak, I dropped 30~40 lbs and all it took was a permanent overhaul of my diet (keto/paleo) and committing to some exercise (close rings on apple watch most days). You know, discipline. About 4 years now... People hate when I tell them the secret is proper diet and exercise, they just don't have the discipline.
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- chiefalchemist 3y agoKudos to you! Let that freak-flag fly!! Keyword: permanent. Most people go on a "diet" to make up for (bad) habits. They make some progress. But then return to those original (bad) habits in denial that those were the cause. Ice cream (for example) was poison then. Diet or not, it's still poison. A small bowl now and then? Sure. But a nightly night-cap? Nah. Healthy doesn't work that way. No one want to hear that, let alone change habits that limit such exposure*. * My rule for the supermarket...if I don't buy it, I can't eat it. I'm convinced you would guess people's weight - and general health - by looking at their shopping cart.