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Don't pretend you care about artists when you refuse to pay them.

redundantly 3y ago
You shouldn't assume what I do or do not do. I take my kids to the movies. I subscribe to services like Apple Music and TV+, and HBO Max. We watch YouTube videos where there's sponsored content in them. We buy officially licensed merchandise like clothing and toys. We buy books, both physical and digital. And, frankly, it doesn't matter what I do personally. Millions, hell billions, of people around the world do as well. If artists are struggling it's because they're not getting paid properly by the corporations they work for, like Disney, Netflix, and others. It's not because of individuals like you or me or the people that run piracy sites.
- gamblor956 3y ago
  If artists are struggling it's because they're not getting paid properly by the corporations they work for, like Disney, Netflix, and others. It's not because of individuals like you or me or the people that run piracy sites. This is false. Artists get paid residuals, meaning, per sale, so every non-sale due to piracy is literally coming out of artists' pockets.
  - scotty79 3y ago
    Not once in the history of my consumption of digital content has me not pirating something turned into a sale. Sometimes I pirate it, sometimes I buy it. Sometimes I consume something free instead. Sometimes I pay for the stuff I don't consume at all. But the substitution is always in the direction of cheaper, more available solution. Never in the direction of buying something. There were cases however when me pirating something eventually turned into a sale or even few sales.
    - gamblor956 3y ago
      And yet, demonstrably speaking, not pirating something leads to actual sales amongst normal people. It's truly bizarre that so many techies complain about the "cost" of artistic works while they sip their $20 lattes and go to their six-figure jobs with ergonomic chairs and free snacks.
      - scotty79 3y ago
        And yet statistically speaking piracy doesn't lead to less sales. It leads to more. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/eu-study-finds-piracy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/eu-study-finds-piracy... What's bizzare is that some of those rich people you mention actually internalized corporate made morality toward "intelectual property" and proselytize it as if that was their full time job. To them piracy is and always has been theft, the way that Santa is wearing and has always been wearing red.

You shouldn't assume what I do or do not do. I take my kids to the movies. I subscribe to services like Apple Music and TV+, and HBO Max. We watch YouTube videos where there's sponsored content in them. We buy officially licensed merchandise like clothing and toys. We buy books, both physical and digital. And, frankly, it doesn't matter what I do personally. Millions, hell billions, of people around the world do as well. If artists are struggling it's because they're not getting paid properly by the corporations they work for, like Disney, Netflix, and others. It's not because of individuals like you or me or the people that run piracy sites.

gamblor956 3y ago
If artists are struggling it's because they're not getting paid properly by the corporations they work for, like Disney, Netflix, and others. It's not because of individuals like you or me or the people that run piracy sites. This is false. Artists get paid residuals, meaning, per sale, so every non-sale due to piracy is literally coming out of artists' pockets.
- scotty79 3y ago
  Not once in the history of my consumption of digital content has me not pirating something turned into a sale. Sometimes I pirate it, sometimes I buy it. Sometimes I consume something free instead. Sometimes I pay for the stuff I don't consume at all. But the substitution is always in the direction of cheaper, more available solution. Never in the direction of buying something. There were cases however when me pirating something eventually turned into a sale or even few sales.
  - gamblor956 3y ago
    And yet, demonstrably speaking, not pirating something leads to actual sales amongst normal people. It's truly bizarre that so many techies complain about the "cost" of artistic works while they sip their $20 lattes and go to their six-figure jobs with ergonomic chairs and free snacks.
    - scotty79 3y ago
      And yet statistically speaking piracy doesn't lead to less sales. It leads to more. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/eu-study-finds-piracy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/eu-study-finds-piracy... What's bizzare is that some of those rich people you mention actually internalized corporate made morality toward "intelectual property" and proselytize it as if that was their full time job. To them piracy is and always has been theft, the way that Santa is wearing and has always been wearing red.