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This isn't just my perspective from media, but from living in a city with a very conservative base (Colorado Springs). I've seen very little political action fr

by Taywee 3y ago

This isn't just my perspective from media, but from living in a city with a very conservative base (Colorado Springs). I've seen very little political action from conservatives that wasn't reactionary and to the tone of "actually, we don't want anything to change, anywhere at all, unless it means legally enforcing my religious ideals". When it comes to major issues like "how do we handle this virus?" I haven't seen any answers at all from the right other than "we don't want anything the other side of the fence wants". How does the right plan to handle many of the largest problems? Food monoculture? Environmental problems? Wealth inequality? Racial inequality? I live in a pool of conservatism, and the answer is always "what's the problem? My life is good."

boredumb 3y ago
> Food monoculture? Environmental problems? Wealth inequality? Racial inequality? Wealth inequality: reducing regulatory capture and ease of doing business to encourage more competition and wealth across all levels of industry. Food monoculture: reducing globalization of trade and exports to focus on local farming and agriculture Environmental problems: reducing globalization of trade and exports to reduce shipping and much worse pollution and environmental damage in countries of origin (while also promoting manufacturing here to help with wealth inequality) Racial inequality: of what?* *edit now that I re-read it, I mean what particular race and inequality are we addressing, there are plenty and there is no blanket solution.
- tedunangst 3y ago
  How does a return to local farming help food monoculture? Half the things I eat can't be grown here.
  - Taywee 3y ago
    It helps by putting more emphasis on growing things native to a region, rather than feeding the entire world on corn, rice, wheat, dairy, pork, beef, and chicken.
- Taywee 3y ago
  Those are reasonable approaches. You must interact with more reasonable conservatives than I do. The ones I interact with regularly tend to worship the rich and reject any approach that involves any change at all. As far as "racial inequality" goes, it's loaded and difficult. I disagree with the common approaches I've heard on both sides (the left tends to push for an oversimplified hypercorrection, which causes different sets of problems). It's like cancer, in that it's often lumped into a single category, but it's actually a huge set of problems without a single solution. Most of the conservatives I've talked to reject that any inequality exists at all. What you are talking about is what I'd really consider to be "true conservatism", but in my interactions, a lot of real life conservatives I've talked to sound more like 4chan trolls. Maybe I need to get out of this city.

by Taywee 3y ago

boredumb 3y ago

> Food monoculture? Environmental problems? Wealth inequality? Racial inequality? Wealth inequality: reducing regulatory capture and ease of doing business to encourage more competition and wealth across all levels of industry. Food monoculture: reducing globalization of trade and exports to focus on local farming and agriculture Environmental problems: reducing globalization of trade and exports to reduce shipping and much worse pollution and environmental damage in countries of origin (while also promoting manufacturing here to help with wealth inequality) Racial inequality: of what?* *edit now that I re-read it, I mean what particular race and inequality are we addressing, there are plenty and there is no blanket solution.

tedunangst 3y ago
How does a return to local farming help food monoculture? Half the things I eat can't be grown here.
- Taywee 3y ago
  It helps by putting more emphasis on growing things native to a region, rather than feeding the entire world on corn, rice, wheat, dairy, pork, beef, and chicken.
Taywee 3y ago
Those are reasonable approaches. You must interact with more reasonable conservatives than I do. The ones I interact with regularly tend to worship the rich and reject any approach that involves any change at all. As far as "racial inequality" goes, it's loaded and difficult. I disagree with the common approaches I've heard on both sides (the left tends to push for an oversimplified hypercorrection, which causes different sets of problems). It's like cancer, in that it's often lumped into a single category, but it's actually a huge set of problems without a single solution. Most of the conservatives I've talked to reject that any inequality exists at all. What you are talking about is what I'd really consider to be "true conservatism", but in my interactions, a lot of real life conservatives I've talked to sound more like 4chan trolls. Maybe I need to get out of this city.