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Trying to read people's minds and intentions and looking for a master plan, rather than seeing coordination problems and simple human weakness and fault is obvi

Trying to read people's minds and intentions and looking for a master plan, rather than seeing coordination problems and simple human weakness and fault is obviously the main source of conspiracy theories. It's so hard for humans not to try to find a sensible pattern and accept that not everything make sense.

throwawaymaths 3y ago
The fundamental problem is that structural incentives often look exactly like a master plan (which is why we sometimes call incentives an "invisible hand")
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 3y ago
  Nope, invisible hand means not deliberately imposed incentives, but spontaneous creation of order from seemingly chaotic market forces.
the-printer 3y ago
> Trying to read people's minds and intentions and looking for a master plan, rather than seeing coordination problems and simple human weakness and fault is obviously the main source of conspiracy theories. And mistrust in general as well.
mistermann 3y ago
> is obviously the main source of conspiracy theories. Also mind reading (or simple guessing/heuristics).
carlosjobim 3y ago
But these things are usually master plans? Like Agenda 2030 - what could you call it but a master plan?
- ajmurmann 3y ago
  Sure there is often times a plan, it typically doesn't deserve the term "master plan" though and certainly doesn't deserve to be associated with the images the term invokes. Plans are usually badly though-out, watered-down for compromises and ignore second order effects. In addition, the things people latch on to were clearly not part of the plan. There wasn't a COVID lockdown, so that the guy in charge was able to visit a castle without other visitors there. At the risk of practicing mind-reading myself, I am pretty sure that visiting the castle didn't come up at any stage of the decision-making process that led to a lockdown. The cast visit wasn't part of the master plan. Like Gavin Newsom's visit to the French Laundry wasn't part of the plan for the lockdown in California. It's just shit leadership and inability to lead by example. All these things are usually bad compromises that came out of some group or committee that's not nearly as homogenous and aligned as conspiracy theorists like to believe. Edit: what is Agenda 2023? Google shows me links to places wehre I can buy a planner for 2023.
  - carlosjobim 3y ago
    > Edit: what is Agenda 2023? Google shows me links to places wehre I can buy a planner for 2023. Typo, fixed.
  - JacobThreeThree 3y ago
    Not sure if OP edited his comment, but as of now it's written 2030, not 2023.

throwawaymaths 3y ago

The fundamental problem is that structural incentives often look exactly like a master plan (which is why we sometimes call incentives an "invisible hand")

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 3y ago
Nope, invisible hand means not deliberately imposed incentives, but spontaneous creation of order from seemingly chaotic market forces.

the-printer 3y ago

> Trying to read people's minds and intentions and looking for a master plan, rather than seeing coordination problems and simple human weakness and fault is obviously the main source of conspiracy theories. And mistrust in general as well.

mistermann 3y ago

> is obviously the main source of conspiracy theories. Also mind reading (or simple guessing/heuristics).

carlosjobim 3y ago

But these things are usually master plans? Like Agenda 2030 - what could you call it but a master plan?

ajmurmann 3y ago
Sure there is often times a plan, it typically doesn't deserve the term "master plan" though and certainly doesn't deserve to be associated with the images the term invokes. Plans are usually badly though-out, watered-down for compromises and ignore second order effects. In addition, the things people latch on to were clearly not part of the plan. There wasn't a COVID lockdown, so that the guy in charge was able to visit a castle without other visitors there. At the risk of practicing mind-reading myself, I am pretty sure that visiting the castle didn't come up at any stage of the decision-making process that led to a lockdown. The cast visit wasn't part of the master plan. Like Gavin Newsom's visit to the French Laundry wasn't part of the plan for the lockdown in California. It's just shit leadership and inability to lead by example. All these things are usually bad compromises that came out of some group or committee that's not nearly as homogenous and aligned as conspiracy theorists like to believe. Edit: what is Agenda 2023? Google shows me links to places wehre I can buy a planner for 2023.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  > Edit: what is Agenda 2023? Google shows me links to places wehre I can buy a planner for 2023. Typo, fixed.
- JacobThreeThree 3y ago
  Not sure if OP edited his comment, but as of now it's written 2030, not 2023.