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Nice effort, I guess? But really this is just seems like a bad gimmick to me. As someone who lives nearby, Eastern TN as a whole strikes me as a horrible place

Nice effort, I guess? But really this is just seems like a bad gimmick to me. As someone who lives nearby, Eastern TN as a whole strikes me as a horrible place for hackers or startups. The majority of local talent seems generally disinterested in moving to any languages or tools beyond those of the average enterprise (java, .net), or anything built/polished in the last 5 years. Generally your choices are making a decent salary working in healthcare with .NET/Java, or making <30k salaries with open source, which generally doesn't go much further than CMS modifications, or working for a CTO that thinks php frameworks are fadish and don't really work in most situations (so he rolled his own). I don't think I need to add a disclaimer that this is non-objective and entirely related to my personal experiences in Chattanooga. It's bad enough that after job hunting in the area, I decided to go entirely freelance. And even there, I won't even talk to local companies. I've already wasted enough time hunting local clients only to realize nary a one of them expects to pay > $20/hr. "moving to where you can get faster Internet service"... "GigCity"... This is clearly bait. Pretending this gigabit internet service is available or practical for a startup, much less personal use, is either dishonest or ignorant of the actual situation in Chattanooga.

balgarath 15y ago
"This is clearly bait. Pretending this gigabit internet service is available or practical for a startup, much less personal use, is either dishonest or ignorant of the actual situation in Chattanooga." What are you talking about? I do believe you are the one ignorant of the actual situation in Chattanooga. Gigabit internet service IS available to startups. Hell, its available to residential customers. https://epbfi.com/enroll/packages/#/fi-speed-internet-1000 https://epbfi.com/enroll/packages/#/fi-speed-internet-1000 I've got the 30Mbps package at home, and it is a true 30meg up and down. They laid fiber all over the city, and it is 100x better than any other internet services I've ever had(I don't think my internet has been down one time since I moved to Chattanooga). "Generally your choices are making a decent salary working in healthcare with .NET/Java, or making <30k salaries with open source, which generally doesn't go much further than CMS modifications, or working for a CTO that thinks php frameworks are fadish and don't really work in most situations (so he rolled his own)." I'm making ~50k working for a startup, using ruby, nodejs, mongo, redis...all kinds of open source. And we're hiring. "And even there, I won't even talk to local companies. I've already wasted enough time hunting local clients only to realize nary a one of them expects to pay > $20/hr." Not gonna argue with this one :) I think you are a bit behind the times as to whats going on in Chattanooga.
- ninjac0der 15y ago
  349.99/mo for residential gigabit service. As for businesses, I couldn't get listings for that, but per my original information, that is also cost prohibitive. Their "30" plan (I'm guessing that means 30mbps) is just as expensive as my much faster cable offerings from comcast. I stand by my original statement. I won't argue with you that your salary in any way disputes the average open source salaries in that area and their general absurdity.
  - balgarath 15y ago
    Curious, do you get the actual speeds that comcast tells you you're buying? EPB Chattanooga was the first ISP I had that actually gives me what I pay for..
  - jonknee 15y ago
    Comcast's plans aren't synchronous though. Their 30Mbps package ("Blast!") runs $72.95/mo, but that's using "PowerBoost" which means it's not 30Mbps and only has an upload rate of ~4Mbps. http://www.dslreports.com/faq/14520 http://www.dslreports.com/faq/14520 http://www.dslreports.com/faq/15643 http://www.dslreports.com/faq/15643 The 30Mpbs up and down package in Nashville costs $57.99. It's a deal. All their packages are, 100Mbps up and down for $139.99 is great. FiOS's fastest package is 150/35 and runs $199.99/month. Update: You also save with packages. It's actually cheaper to get the phone service (1Gbps drops from $349.99 to $317.99) and the TV isn't much more.
impendia 15y ago
> As someone who lives nearby, Eastern TN as a whole strikes me as a horrible place for hackers or startups. The majority of local talent seems generally disinterested in moving to any languages or tools beyond those of the average enterprise (java, .net), or anything built/polished in the last 5 years. Presumably these people are trying to change that. If Eastern TN sucks for hackers, and I have no reason to doubt you -- then it seems gratitude is called for rather than derision.
- ninjac0der 15y ago
  I think my comment in it's full form addresses the veiled absurdity of their approach, so I'm not sure what your point is.

balgarath 15y ago

"This is clearly bait. Pretending this gigabit internet service is available or practical for a startup, much less personal use, is either dishonest or ignorant of the actual situation in Chattanooga." What are you talking about? I do believe you are the one ignorant of the actual situation in Chattanooga. Gigabit internet service IS available to startups. Hell, its available to residential customers. https://epbfi.com/enroll/packages/#/fi-speed-internet-1000 https://epbfi.com/enroll/packages/#/fi-speed-internet-1000 I've got the 30Mbps package at home, and it is a true 30meg up and down. They laid fiber all over the city, and it is 100x better than any other internet services I've ever had(I don't think my internet has been down one time since I moved to Chattanooga). "Generally your choices are making a decent salary working in healthcare with .NET/Java, or making <30k salaries with open source, which generally doesn't go much further than CMS modifications, or working for a CTO that thinks php frameworks are fadish and don't really work in most situations (so he rolled his own)." I'm making ~50k working for a startup, using ruby, nodejs, mongo, redis...all kinds of open source. And we're hiring. "And even there, I won't even talk to local companies. I've already wasted enough time hunting local clients only to realize nary a one of them expects to pay > $20/hr." Not gonna argue with this one :) I think you are a bit behind the times as to whats going on in Chattanooga.

ninjac0der 15y ago
349.99/mo for residential gigabit service. As for businesses, I couldn't get listings for that, but per my original information, that is also cost prohibitive. Their "30" plan (I'm guessing that means 30mbps) is just as expensive as my much faster cable offerings from comcast. I stand by my original statement. I won't argue with you that your salary in any way disputes the average open source salaries in that area and their general absurdity.
- balgarath 15y ago
  Curious, do you get the actual speeds that comcast tells you you're buying? EPB Chattanooga was the first ISP I had that actually gives me what I pay for..
- jonknee 15y ago
  Comcast's plans aren't synchronous though. Their 30Mbps package ("Blast!") runs $72.95/mo, but that's using "PowerBoost" which means it's not 30Mbps and only has an upload rate of ~4Mbps. http://www.dslreports.com/faq/14520 http://www.dslreports.com/faq/14520 http://www.dslreports.com/faq/15643 http://www.dslreports.com/faq/15643 The 30Mpbs up and down package in Nashville costs $57.99. It's a deal. All their packages are, 100Mbps up and down for $139.99 is great. FiOS's fastest package is 150/35 and runs $199.99/month. Update: You also save with packages. It's actually cheaper to get the phone service (1Gbps drops from $349.99 to $317.99) and the TV isn't much more.

impendia 15y ago

> As someone who lives nearby, Eastern TN as a whole strikes me as a horrible place for hackers or startups. The majority of local talent seems generally disinterested in moving to any languages or tools beyond those of the average enterprise (java, .net), or anything built/polished in the last 5 years. Presumably these people are trying to change that. If Eastern TN sucks for hackers, and I have no reason to doubt you -- then it seems gratitude is called for rather than derision.

ninjac0der 15y ago
I think my comment in it's full form addresses the veiled absurdity of their approach, so I'm not sure what your point is.