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Dead for 32,000 Years, an Arctic Plant Is Revived
- kreek 15y agoOnly half-joking, isn't this how disaster movies start?
- mkramlich 15y agoI had a similar reaction. Then read the article, starts off fairly straight-forward, no drama, etc. and then there's this fun paragraph from out of left field: "Tragedy has now struck the Russian team. Dr. Gilichinksy, its leader, was hospitalized with an asthma attack and unable to respond to questions, his daughter Yana said on Friday. On Saturday, Dr. Price reported that Dr. Gilichinsky had died of a heart attack."
- coldarchon 15y agoDarwin award becomes recursive here ..
- plessthanpt05 15y agoexactly...my first thought was how this seems like a stones throw away from jurassic park.
- leeskye 15y ago"Tragedy has now struck the Russian team. Dr. Gilichinksy, its leader, was hospitalized with an asthma attack and unable to respond to questions, his daughter Yana said on Friday. On Saturday, Dr. Price reported that Dr. Gilichinsky had died of a heart attack." now...thats the scariest part of that article
- adriand 15y agoThis is a common reaction to stories about resurrecting ancient species, but I wonder if it really just means that disaster movies are silly, rather than that these activities are risky. After all, when we consider ancient, extinct species, the organisms in question are likely ill-adapted to survive in the present day. By virtue of having gone extinct, it is a truism that they were ill-adapted to survive the past era in which they disappeared as well. In this case, the plant is nearly identical to its modern relative, but even if we brought back to life a plant or animal that disappeared thousands of years ago, it would be incredibly difficult for it to survive. For one thing, it would typically need other members of the opposite sex with which to breed. It would also be adapted to thrive in a much different environment than today's. These are substantial challenges. Of course, it's possible that reintroducing an ancient species to the present day would be similar to introducing a non-native species to, say, Australia. I'm also not keen on the prospect of reviving ancient microbes and viruses. But I'm not worried about this plant, or about dinosaurs, for that matter.
- baddox 15y agoYou seem to be claiming that the ancient specimen would likely not thrive; I think we all agree. The sci-fi disaster movie angle would probably be that the ancient specimen is carrying a disease that isn't particularly special except for the fact that no current species (or at least humans) have any immunity whatsoever.
- eru 15y agoBeing around doesn't have to make a species more likely to survive. Specie don't exist in a vacuum. Like an invasive species, a very old resurrect species, won't have to cope with all its usual predators and parasites.
- captaincrunch 15y agoHow is it that this got up to #3? I'd down vote this if I could, only because I hate logging into a news site to read articles that shouldn't be hidden.
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- stephengillie 15y agoInstead of just complaining about the problem, let's help ourselves to read it and support non-paywalling sources. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-20/32-000-year-old-plant-reborn-from-ancient-fruit-found-in-siberian-ice.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-20/32-000-year-old-pla...
- captaincrunch 15y agobravo!
- daviddoran 15y agoThis stood out for me: "If the claim is true, then scientists should be able to study evolution in real time by comparing the ancient and living campions."
- rcthompson 15y agoYes, this allows them to directly sequence the genome of an "internal" node of the tree of life, whereas normally we only get to sequence the leaf nodes (extant species).
- ceol 15y agoIs there a benefit to bringing long-lost plants back to life? I assume there's potential for this technology to be applied elsewhere, and it's a truly awesome achievement, but could the plants themselves be used for something?
- rcthompson 15y agoWell, we don't know what life was like with this "extinct" plant species, so we can't really tell yet if it has practical utility for humans (for example, producing a previously-unknown antifungal agent). However, the ability to rescue species from extinction is a very useful tool to have lying around, in case a plant critical to modern life is pushed to extinction.
- lignuist 15y agoEvery plant can be used for something.
- wisty 15y agoOften, blue sky research has the best ROI. You get smart people working really hard on it. There's a lot less crap to deal with, so they are totally focused on solving the problem. And the problems are actually quite clear cut (is the plant back from the dead yet?), so a lot of management issues disappear. A well defined (yet useless) goal is easier to manage than a wishy-washy "improve it, but don't change anything".
- aptwebapps 15y agoSee daviddoran's comment and rcthompson's reply http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3614304 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3614304
- netcan 15y agoThey broke an Israeli record to do this. This could end up with a who made the biggest dinosaur very quick: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34767635/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/latest-hummus-war-israel-doubles-record/ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34767635/ns/world_news-mideast_n...
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- moonchrome 15y agoThis is cool but : >with improved methods has produced spectacular results like the reconstitution of the Neanderthal genome. Now that cloning a Neanderthal would be really interesting.