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At the moment, for some reason Google seems almost untouchable. I mean, single handedly destroying the browser market by deceit and abuse of market position in

At the moment, for some reason Google seems almost untouchable. I mean, single handedly destroying the browser market by deceit and abuse of market position in broad daylight, you'd think sooner or later EU or someone would force them to pay and put up a browser ballot on Google.com, but so far, no. Luckily the French consumer protection agency has at least forced them to implement the cookie question thing almost so we can now reject all right away.

Terretta 3y ago
> single handedly destroying the browser market by deceit and abuse of market position in broad daylight It's not single handedly, it's every developer handedly. First thing any dev does is install Chrome, and make their normal friends install Chrome, even when -- for example -- it destroys the battery life on their Macbook while breaking a variety of usability conveniences. When pressed, it turns out most of this is cargo culting, they actually haven't turned on developer tools or compared performance or memory handling, much less experienced the remarkable security and privacy integrations* available in co-shipped Safari browser. Having observed the browser wars since before NCSA Mosaic, I'd argue not Google but a set of "tech influencers" well represented on HN made this happen, not Google. In the longer context, HN's clamor to force iOS off Safari, the only significant bastion against a monoculture and one ad company's complete grip on visibility of all web use, is shocking. --- * For instance, various anti-tracker and IP anonymizing capabilities, plus a built-in and cross device syncing password manager that even supports TOTP codes.
- salawat 3y ago
  Citation required. I've been warning my circles off Chrome for years. Firefox is generally my go to.
- hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago
  > First thing any dev Maybe frontend devs. For me FF is invaluable, especially the containers.

Terretta 3y ago

> single handedly destroying the browser market by deceit and abuse of market position in broad daylight It's not single handedly, it's every developer handedly. First thing any dev does is install Chrome, and make their normal friends install Chrome, even when -- for example -- it destroys the battery life on their Macbook while breaking a variety of usability conveniences. When pressed, it turns out most of this is cargo culting, they actually haven't turned on developer tools or compared performance or memory handling, much less experienced the remarkable security and privacy integrations* available in co-shipped Safari browser. Having observed the browser wars since before NCSA Mosaic, I'd argue not Google but a set of "tech influencers" well represented on HN made this happen, not Google. In the longer context, HN's clamor to force iOS off Safari, the only significant bastion against a monoculture and one ad company's complete grip on visibility of all web use, is shocking. --- * For instance, various anti-tracker and IP anonymizing capabilities, plus a built-in and cross device syncing password manager that even supports TOTP codes.

salawat 3y ago
Citation required. I've been warning my circles off Chrome for years. Firefox is generally my go to.
hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago
> First thing any dev Maybe frontend devs. For me FF is invaluable, especially the containers.