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Who wrote that reply? A Googler? Is there a screenshot? This would be a gigantic GDPR lawsuit. This reminds me of not communicating with Gmail users. Gmail has

by bkanl 3y ago

Who wrote that reply? A Googler? Is there a screenshot? This would be a gigantic GDPR lawsuit. This reminds me of not communicating with Gmail users. Gmail has been evil forever since "personalized" ads.

bilekas 3y ago
It's in the article, but here's the direct link to help you out. https://twitter.com/cajundiscordian/status/1638243303035670528 https://twitter.com/cajundiscordian/status/16382433030356705...
skinkestek 3y ago
At the moment, for some reason Google seems almost untouchable. I mean, single handedly destroying the browser market by deceit and abuse of market position in broad daylight, you'd think sooner or later EU or someone would force them to pay and put up a browser ballot on Google.com, but so far, no. Luckily the French consumer protection agency has at least forced them to implement the cookie question thing almost so we can now reject all right away.
- Terretta 3y ago
  > single handedly destroying the browser market by deceit and abuse of market position in broad daylight It's not single handedly, it's every developer handedly. First thing any dev does is install Chrome, and make their normal friends install Chrome, even when -- for example -- it destroys the battery life on their Macbook while breaking a variety of usability conveniences. When pressed, it turns out most of this is cargo culting, they actually haven't turned on developer tools or compared performance or memory handling, much less experienced the remarkable security and privacy integrations* available in co-shipped Safari browser. Having observed the browser wars since before NCSA Mosaic, I'd argue not Google but a set of "tech influencers" well represented on HN made this happen, not Google. In the longer context, HN's clamor to force iOS off Safari, the only significant bastion against a monoculture and one ad company's complete grip on visibility of all web use, is shocking. --- * For instance, various anti-tracker and IP anonymizing capabilities, plus a built-in and cross device syncing password manager that even supports TOTP codes.
  - salawat 3y ago
    Citation required. I've been warning my circles off Chrome for years. Firefox is generally my go to.
  - hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago
    > First thing any dev Maybe frontend devs. For me FF is invaluable, especially the containers.
huijzer 3y ago
> This would be a gigantic GDPR lawsuit. No. They are not available in the EU. At least, I assume this is how Google thinks about it.
- jruohonen 3y ago
  It doesn't matter, and Google knows it.
- pyrale 3y ago
  I believe the point is that Google leaks data collected through a service available in the EU (Gmail). The GDPR claim would be related to gmail, not bard. If anything, bard not being available in the EU would prove that using the data wasn't necessary for EU's gmail service.

by bkanl 3y ago

bilekas 3y ago

It's in the article, but here's the direct link to help you out. https://twitter.com/cajundiscordian/status/1638243303035670528 https://twitter.com/cajundiscordian/status/16382433030356705...

skinkestek 3y ago

At the moment, for some reason Google seems almost untouchable. I mean, single handedly destroying the browser market by deceit and abuse of market position in broad daylight, you'd think sooner or later EU or someone would force them to pay and put up a browser ballot on Google.com, but so far, no. Luckily the French consumer protection agency has at least forced them to implement the cookie question thing almost so we can now reject all right away.

Terretta 3y ago
> single handedly destroying the browser market by deceit and abuse of market position in broad daylight It's not single handedly, it's every developer handedly. First thing any dev does is install Chrome, and make their normal friends install Chrome, even when -- for example -- it destroys the battery life on their Macbook while breaking a variety of usability conveniences. When pressed, it turns out most of this is cargo culting, they actually haven't turned on developer tools or compared performance or memory handling, much less experienced the remarkable security and privacy integrations* available in co-shipped Safari browser. Having observed the browser wars since before NCSA Mosaic, I'd argue not Google but a set of "tech influencers" well represented on HN made this happen, not Google. In the longer context, HN's clamor to force iOS off Safari, the only significant bastion against a monoculture and one ad company's complete grip on visibility of all web use, is shocking. --- * For instance, various anti-tracker and IP anonymizing capabilities, plus a built-in and cross device syncing password manager that even supports TOTP codes.
- salawat 3y ago
  Citation required. I've been warning my circles off Chrome for years. Firefox is generally my go to.
- hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago
  > First thing any dev Maybe frontend devs. For me FF is invaluable, especially the containers.

huijzer 3y ago

> This would be a gigantic GDPR lawsuit. No. They are not available in the EU. At least, I assume this is how Google thinks about it.

jruohonen 3y ago
It doesn't matter, and Google knows it.
pyrale 3y ago
I believe the point is that Google leaks data collected through a service available in the EU (Gmail). The GDPR claim would be related to gmail, not bard. If anything, bard not being available in the EU would prove that using the data wasn't necessary for EU's gmail service.