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" I’d rather have all this be regulated with oversight, than the alternative." Yeah well, that raises the old question: who guards the guards? As far as I am

" I’d rather have all this be regulated with oversight, than the alternative." Yeah well, that raises the old question: who guards the guards? As far as I am aware, police and politicians themself, react quite allergic to more transparency (surveillance) for them. So the only way I would be remotely ok with more surveillance and regulation, is if would apply to everyone and especially to the regulators. Otherwise a clear no from me, I simply do not trust the authorities. And there are still lots of ways to communicate besides regulated spaces. But sure if, you want to be heard by the mainstream, you are going into regulated territory.

adamhp 3y ago
I really really wish people would keep reading 1984.
- sourcelang 3y ago
  Sure, cover your eyes. This conversation needs to start at a point where we take the status quo of government, intelligence agency and private company operations into account, and not from an idealistic utopian perspective. Companies or governments with unlimited budgets, zero morals and access to the worlds smartest hackers will always exist. I’m not being some kind of doomer, I’m being realistic.
  - hutzlibu 3y ago
    "Companies or governments with unlimited budgets, zero morals and access to the worlds smartest hackers will always exist. I’m not being some kind of doomer, I’m being realistic. " Actually, you are not realistic, as no government has unlimited budget. And yes, we have to work with, what we have. But that doesn't mean we have to make it easy to let the NSA in. So if they have (something like) a warrant, I am fine with them breaking into someones computers. But it has to be an effort and not just if they feel like it. That would be unchecked power and I am not aware, how that ever turned out fine.
  - ClumsyPilot 3y ago
    Companies and governments with smartest hackers could be stealing money from your bank account, but they don't. If you steal money from a digital bank account, you go to prison. If you steal data from OneDrive, usually nothing happens.
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adamhp 3y ago

I really really wish people would keep reading 1984.

sourcelang 3y ago
Sure, cover your eyes. This conversation needs to start at a point where we take the status quo of government, intelligence agency and private company operations into account, and not from an idealistic utopian perspective. Companies or governments with unlimited budgets, zero morals and access to the worlds smartest hackers will always exist. I’m not being some kind of doomer, I’m being realistic.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  "Companies or governments with unlimited budgets, zero morals and access to the worlds smartest hackers will always exist. I’m not being some kind of doomer, I’m being realistic. " Actually, you are not realistic, as no government has unlimited budget. And yes, we have to work with, what we have. But that doesn't mean we have to make it easy to let the NSA in. So if they have (something like) a warrant, I am fine with them breaking into someones computers. But it has to be an effort and not just if they feel like it. That would be unchecked power and I am not aware, how that ever turned out fine.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  Companies and governments with smartest hackers could be stealing money from your bank account, but they don't. If you steal money from a digital bank account, you go to prison. If you steal data from OneDrive, usually nothing happens.
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