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I would like to see a statement from the other side. For example I heard around a few corners that people didn't feel unconfortable with JeanHeyd as a keynote

I would like to see a statement from the other side. For example I heard around a few corners that people didn't feel unconfortable with JeanHeyd as a keynote speaker but with topic of the keynote speech. Mainly because it would frame certain possible future rust features as if they are decided one and it's just a question of time and how until they land. But that many people disagree and think this features should never land in rust due to the complexity they impose and due to how they did play out in other languages. The problem is the "around a few corners" part, I have no idea if that's true or made up excuses. EDIT: Maybe I should just go back on twitter and go through JeanHeyd's posts ... EDIT EDIT: The missing official statement is very telling by itself. EDIT: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/05/29/RustConf.html https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/05/29/RustConf.html me blind

Klonoar 3y ago
There's also this bit from Josh Triplett: https://hackmd.io/p3VG_bK9TXOvtgh1oA2yZQ?view https://hackmd.io/p3VG_bK9TXOvtgh1oA2yZQ?view
- Semaphor 3y ago
  FWIW, that’s some decent introspection and a frank post.
- boris 3y ago
  The good guy who thought this would be the wrong decision all along but who got caught up in the middle of it has resigned. I bet people who thought (and perhaps still think) this was the right decision will not resign. Politics is a bitch.
dathinab 3y ago
One think I want to add to my comment: It doesn't mean what they did wasn't very wrong. Just some of the speculations in previous HN comments seem to be very far off
romeoblade 3y ago
Coffee must not have kicked in yet ;) From reading a few blog posts, there appears to be a complete lack of process and governance since the moderator team resigned and the "leadership chat" (which I understand was only supposed to be temporary) was implemented. I didn't care for the official statement, it's great they apologized, but it's lacking a lot of details and an RCA. The explanations from other members personal blogs go in further detail and that makes the official statement seem kind of hand wavey.
junon 3y ago
Josh resigned, that's probably more what you're looking for.
SSLy 3y ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/13vbd9v/on_the_rustconf_keynote_rust_blog/jm6p26m/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/13vbd9v/on_the_rustco...
CJefferson 3y ago
In my interpretation at least, I don't think anyone would have a problem if JeanHeyd had never been offered a keynote spot. The problem is offering, and then taking it away -- doing that should only be done for the most serious reasons (as it's a clear strong snub to take such a thing away once it's been announced, people start planning their talk, pay for things, etc).

Klonoar 3y ago

There's also this bit from Josh Triplett: https://hackmd.io/p3VG_bK9TXOvtgh1oA2yZQ?view https://hackmd.io/p3VG_bK9TXOvtgh1oA2yZQ?view

Semaphor 3y ago
FWIW, that’s some decent introspection and a frank post.
boris 3y ago
The good guy who thought this would be the wrong decision all along but who got caught up in the middle of it has resigned. I bet people who thought (and perhaps still think) this was the right decision will not resign. Politics is a bitch.

dathinab 3y ago

One think I want to add to my comment: It doesn't mean what they did wasn't very wrong. Just some of the speculations in previous HN comments seem to be very far off

romeoblade 3y ago

Coffee must not have kicked in yet ;) From reading a few blog posts, there appears to be a complete lack of process and governance since the moderator team resigned and the "leadership chat" (which I understand was only supposed to be temporary) was implemented. I didn't care for the official statement, it's great they apologized, but it's lacking a lot of details and an RCA. The explanations from other members personal blogs go in further detail and that makes the official statement seem kind of hand wavey.

junon 3y ago

Josh resigned, that's probably more what you're looking for.

SSLy 3y ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/13vbd9v/on_the_rustconf_keynote_rust_blog/jm6p26m/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/13vbd9v/on_the_rustco...

CJefferson 3y ago

In my interpretation at least, I don't think anyone would have a problem if JeanHeyd had never been offered a keynote spot. The problem is offering, and then taking it away -- doing that should only be done for the most serious reasons (as it's a clear strong snub to take such a thing away once it's been announced, people start planning their talk, pay for things, etc).