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Genuinely asking, what's an "unwoke" prompt?

by Vanit 3y ago

lynx23 3y ago
Something that follows my actual requests, without trying to lecture me about feminism and other U.S. Democrats topics.
- peterleiser 3y ago
  I'm not disagreeing with you. Whatever you experienced actually happened. But what kinds of prompts are triggering these experiences?
- Loocid 3y ago
  What is an example of a request that is causing these issues?
  - lynx23 3y ago
    Explaining it to you will not fix my problems with OpenAI's instance. Let it suffice that I am a user of ChatGPT who really dislikes the lecturing style of woke-fine-tuning. If a human would lecture me in that style, I'd dumb them and avoid contact.
    - Loocid 3y ago
      Why not share you gripes with the system so they get more exposure? I'm curious to know the pitfalls.
      - askin4it 3y ago
        NMJ
  - flir 3y ago
    Asking it to grammar-check a sentence can sometimes get you a lecture on the content of the sentence, if that helps. Should be simple enough to find an example - just ask it to grammar-check a speech from one of the loonier Republicans.
troad 3y ago
To be fair to the commenter, I've gotten weird moralising on completely apolitical topics from ChatGPT before. LLMs are (naturally) very sensitive to their prompts, so if the prompt includes something about being inclusive - at ChatGPT's obviously does - the LLM output will sometimes find ways to work that in in odd ways. I don't mind as much as the commenter seems to - I have no beef with inclusivity - but I have rolled my eyes at times at what ChatGPT comes up with. I've played with local LLMs too, including some 'uncensored' ones, but the gap in ability between them and something like GPT is still vast. I look forward to progress on this front though.
cf141q5325 3y ago
Pretty sure framing it as unwoke is an overly specific issue, the problem stems from attempting to deal with malinformation as if it were fake news. Its no wonder that results turn shit once you start messing with the underlying reality model. Its an especially bad idea as there are some actual safety risks when it comes to dangerous tutorials. Which will be costly to address. Political overhead is not something anyone can afford. Might be that if your proposed worldview depends on "properly educating" people, you might need to get used to the idea that you are adhering to a legacy system.

Genuinely asking, what's an "unwoke" prompt?

by Vanit 3y ago

Genuinely asking, what's an "unwoke" prompt?

lynx23 3y ago

Something that follows my actual requests, without trying to lecture me about feminism and other U.S. Democrats topics.

peterleiser 3y ago
I'm not disagreeing with you. Whatever you experienced actually happened. But what kinds of prompts are triggering these experiences?
Loocid 3y ago
What is an example of a request that is causing these issues?
- lynx23 3y ago
  Explaining it to you will not fix my problems with OpenAI's instance. Let it suffice that I am a user of ChatGPT who really dislikes the lecturing style of woke-fine-tuning. If a human would lecture me in that style, I'd dumb them and avoid contact.
  - Loocid 3y ago
    Why not share you gripes with the system so they get more exposure? I'm curious to know the pitfalls.
    - askin4it 3y ago
      NMJ
- flir 3y ago
  Asking it to grammar-check a sentence can sometimes get you a lecture on the content of the sentence, if that helps. Should be simple enough to find an example - just ask it to grammar-check a speech from one of the loonier Republicans.

troad 3y ago

To be fair to the commenter, I've gotten weird moralising on completely apolitical topics from ChatGPT before. LLMs are (naturally) very sensitive to their prompts, so if the prompt includes something about being inclusive - at ChatGPT's obviously does - the LLM output will sometimes find ways to work that in in odd ways. I don't mind as much as the commenter seems to - I have no beef with inclusivity - but I have rolled my eyes at times at what ChatGPT comes up with. I've played with local LLMs too, including some 'uncensored' ones, but the gap in ability between them and something like GPT is still vast. I look forward to progress on this front though.

cf141q5325 3y ago

Pretty sure framing it as unwoke is an overly specific issue, the problem stems from attempting to deal with malinformation as if it were fake news. Its no wonder that results turn shit once you start messing with the underlying reality model. Its an especially bad idea as there are some actual safety risks when it comes to dangerous tutorials. Which will be costly to address. Political overhead is not something anyone can afford. Might be that if your proposed worldview depends on "properly educating" people, you might need to get used to the idea that you are adhering to a legacy system.