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If we search foreigners phones, that means we are OK with our own phones getting searched too. If our foreign policy is creating a "rules based international or

If we search foreigners phones, that means we are OK with our own phones getting searched too. If our foreign policy is creating a "rules based international order" which Blinken certainly seems to say a lot, then rules for thee but not for me is a clear violation of that principle. I don't want my phone searched at borders which means I don't want to search other peoples phones at the border, particularly without a warrant. Border agents with unchecked discretionary power is also a slight against rule of law and I think warrants are a check on that power. Maybe they are more checked than I believe them to be or have less discretionary power than I believe them to have. I am open to the idea that I am wrong.

Dalewyn 3y ago
Entering a country as a foreigner is a privilege and not a right, but you neglect the fact that entering a country as a citizen of that country is a right and not a privilege. There is absolutely a distinction to be made between a foreigner and a citizen and their respective personal properties.
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- Mordisquitos 3y ago
  > There is absolutely a distinction to be made between a foreigner and a citizen and their respective personal properties. But that distinction is not relevant in this case. Case in point: your luggage. Try using your status as a citizen to refuse your luggage to be inspected for contraband or taxable imports when returning to your home country from one with which it does not share a tax and customs union, and see how that goes.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  > Entering a country as a foreigner is a privilege and not a right We have the Visa application and interview process for that. > There is absolutely a distinction to be made between a foreigner and a citizen and their respective personal properties. Could you pinpoint this distincrion? What would I be allowed to carry through US border as a citizen but not as a foreigner? Guns? Cocaine? Illegal french cheese? I think you are resting in fallse comfort that your possesions are more protected than those of unwashed foreign masses.

Dalewyn 3y ago

Entering a country as a foreigner is a privilege and not a right, but you neglect the fact that entering a country as a citizen of that country is a right and not a privilege. There is absolutely a distinction to be made between a foreigner and a citizen and their respective personal properties.

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Mordisquitos 3y ago
> There is absolutely a distinction to be made between a foreigner and a citizen and their respective personal properties. But that distinction is not relevant in this case. Case in point: your luggage. Try using your status as a citizen to refuse your luggage to be inspected for contraband or taxable imports when returning to your home country from one with which it does not share a tax and customs union, and see how that goes.
ClumsyPilot 3y ago
> Entering a country as a foreigner is a privilege and not a right We have the Visa application and interview process for that. > There is absolutely a distinction to be made between a foreigner and a citizen and their respective personal properties. Could you pinpoint this distincrion? What would I be allowed to carry through US border as a citizen but not as a foreigner? Guns? Cocaine? Illegal french cheese? I think you are resting in fallse comfort that your possesions are more protected than those of unwashed foreign masses.